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stanelco .......a new thread (SEO)     

bosley - 20 Feb 2004 09:34

Chart.aspx?Provider=EODIntra&Code=SEO&SiChart.aspx?Provider=EODIntra&Code=SEO&Si

for more information about stanelco click on the links.

driver's research page link
http://www.moneyam.com/InvestorsRoom/posts.php?tid=7681#lastread
website link
http://www.stanelco.co.uk/index.htm


oblomov - 24 May 2006 07:58 - 16942 of 27111


Alan,

The thing they're pointing at represents STARpol 4000 - due to be announced at the party, and they are not carrying gifts but a solid gold vacuum flask and sandwich boxes.

Exploding champagne helicopter - what a silly idea!



oblomov - 24 May 2006 08:01 - 16943 of 27111


gotya,

I think you've been 'outed'. No further comment. We've seen it all before.

hewittalan6 - 24 May 2006 08:02 - 16944 of 27111

The thing that really got me was the camel.
I've been to a few parties like that.
Although thinking about it, was that a picture from the Beckhams party? Ridiculously overdressed, rare and expensive presents and, you've got to admit, Rio Ferdinand does bear a striking resemblance to the beast on the rope!!
Alan

oblomov - 24 May 2006 08:18 - 16945 of 27111


The picture's full of symbolism, Alan.

Remember the biodegradable fag tips? Camel? Need I say more!

oblomov - 24 May 2006 10:06 - 16946 of 27111

nyleve - 24 May 2006 10:25 - 16947 of 27111

Ob
Thanks for the drawings, us SEO holders need something to have a laugh about these days - very good !

Tonyrelaxes - 24 May 2006 11:02 - 16948 of 27111

Yes, good piccys but it is physically very tiring having to move the mouse so much more than when it is only text posts. My finger hurts!
Tony

explosive - 24 May 2006 11:18 - 16949 of 27111

I remember when 'Gotya' was an oscar presented by Noel Edmunds for sucessful windups, abit like how this thread is becoming.

The reason why no deals have been signed is very simply as the process to production is still being figured out. WM are still at the table as well as others, once the finished product e.g. machine 1 has been completed, tested and full costs known WM and its suppliers will decide upon adoption. With so much resting on SEO getting this right any short term delays are easily forgiven...

bosley - 24 May 2006 11:19 - 16950 of 27111

gotya outed?? as what?? someone who asks relevant questions?

kimoldfield - 24 May 2006 11:38 - 16951 of 27111

The only problem I have with the delay is that during this time the competition, of which there is a lot, is catching up with SEO. However, the companies providing most competition I believe, are domiciled in USA so surely, WM, Tyson et al will already have given them the once over, so the smart money will lie with SEO in getting the BIG contracts.
kim

explosive - 24 May 2006 11:39 - 16952 of 27111

Questions are relevant however we're all awaiting the answers to these hence the sp. If WM walks from the table the sp will crash, a deal signed it will rise. I'm confident a deal will be signed but no point speculating whilst I wait for news. Thats the excitement of this stock and why we agree potential is massive.

kimoldfield - 24 May 2006 11:40 - 16953 of 27111

By the way, should we ditch the camel, it's giving us a bumpy ride - let's stick to horses (we will have to buy a few more to accomodate the Riders)

oblomov - 24 May 2006 11:42 - 16954 of 27111


No bos, as someone who spreads rumours that cant be substantiated. I've no problem with his questions, except that I think he really knows the answers but would like to put a negative twist on them to wind us up.

rpaco - 24 May 2006 11:45 - 16955 of 27111

I cant imagine any way that WM (who I think own ASDA) will order GS until it has been proven to work in the field and in use, trouble free, for several months in 20 or 30 stores/or packing houses. Would you?

Because of the management's appaling ignorance and/or arrogance in not researching the basic marketing requirements for the product, we were stuck with a 2 year wait until reality dawned on them. Another year to go yet I reckon on GS.

Regarding Starpol, in todays ultra awareness of the necessity for re-cycling; only a lunatic would propose a new food packaging material that was not-recyclable.
If Starpol does not melt/weld under RF, friction or direct heat application, it will have serious disadvantages where sealed packages are needed (a high percentage I would guess) Introducing a glue or welding sheet as mentioned by GOTYA would mean an extra component and extra cost. AND render it non re-cyclable.

But to empahise with some others in the thread a couple of year back I sold firetone diamonds when they fell. I had some QXL at around 20p and sold when they fell and I sold Stagecoach at 25p! To look back on contract notes from 3 years ago makes one realise that we could all have been very much richer by ignoring the logical. SO I'm still in! Though I still say the managenment need replacing.

robinhood - 24 May 2006 12:09 - 16956 of 27111

rpaco- think management is trying hard and we all know that for a company with 52 names on the payroll it is not easy to get a foot in the door with the likes of asda and wm to name a few, but they have succeeded. I admit that some of the roll out problems could have been foreseen but replacing management is both totally uncalled for and in practical terms near impossible considering the CURRENT size of the company

GOTYA - 24 May 2006 12:11 - 16957 of 27111

Starpol does weld under RF rpaco.

However your analysis in the first line is good. WM will follow asda. Asda are yet to get any supplier to buy GS. Starpol and GS would then follow. Weeks/months later if it all works very well WM would enter deals.

Anyone who thinks otherwise is deluded and does not understand fundemental change re engineering. In short it has and will continue to cost them in sp drops.

I'll leave it at that and let the russian control the board and freedom of speech until the time is right.

Good luck.

oblomov - 24 May 2006 12:19 - 16958 of 27111



rpaco, you say

'Because of the management's appaling ignorance and/or arrogance in not researching the basic marketing requirements for the product, we were stuck with a 2 year wait until reality dawned on them. Another year to go yet I reckon on GS.'

From the History of Tetrapak, link below

'After the first invention in 1944 it took nearly 10 years until a feasible material could be produced on a large scale. RubenRausing summarised the extent of the problem: Doing some-thing that nobody else has done before is actually quite hard.
http://www.tetrapak.com/docs/the%20history.pdf

SEO's management have and are doing just fine - they are 'Doing some-thing that nobody else has done before'. That takes time.

GOTYA - 24 May 2006 12:22 - 16959 of 27111

ps "The Management" I have huge respect for, seo are small and have achieved amazing progress.

It could and should have been done better, but the future is all that can be changed. They now have more experienced players like Martin W. They need to put more effort into sorting GS and need greater skilled capacity to add to the seo team. It should have been rather obvious from day 1 that packers could not/cannot afford down time on lines.

There is still much to do before any deals will drop so expect 7.5 - 12p as a guide. I'm not saying the sp will saty within these, it's purely my guess oblomov, but at least I'm making one based upon sound research and experience.

tweenie - 24 May 2006 12:49 - 16960 of 27111

Gotcha's gone soft.lol

parrisf - 24 May 2006 15:45 - 16961 of 27111

parrisf

Have followed this thread for some time. Just thought you'd like to know that I'm still in as well. Let's hope it's not like all my other penny shares REF, BS., GBINTL, and more.
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