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Tony

I remember when 'Gotya' was an oscar presented by Noel Edmunds for sucessful windups, abit like how this thread is becoming.

The reason why no deals have been signed is very simply as the process to production is still being figured out. WM are still at the table as well as others, once the finished product e.g. machine 1 has been completed, tested and full costs known WM and its suppliers will decide upon adoption. With so much resting on SEO getting this right any short term delays are easily forgiven...

gotya outed?? as what?? someone who asks relevant questions?

The only problem I have with the delay is that during this time the competition, of which there is a lot, is catching up with SEO. However, the companies providing most competition I believe, are domiciled in USA so surely, WM, Tyson et al will already have given them the once over, so the smart money will lie with SEO in getting the BIG contracts.
kim

Questions are relevant however we're all awaiting the answers to these hence the sp. If WM walks from the table the sp will crash, a deal signed it will rise. I'm confident a deal will be signed but no point speculating whilst I wait for news. Thats the excitement of this stock and why we agree potential is massive.

By the way, should we ditch the camel, it's giving us a bumpy ride - let's stick to horses (we will have to buy a few more to accomodate the Riders)

No bos, as someone who spreads rumours that cant be substantiated. I've no problem with his questions, except that I think he really knows the answers but would like to put a negative twist on them to wind us up.

I cant imagine any way that WM (who I think own ASDA) will order GS until it has been proven to work in the field and in use, trouble free, for several months in 20 or 30 stores/or packing houses. Would you?

Because of the management's appaling ignorance and/or arrogance in not researching the basic marketing requirements for the product, we were stuck with a 2 year wait until reality dawned on them. Another year to go yet I reckon on GS.

Regarding Starpol, in todays ultra awareness of the necessity for re-cycling; only a lunatic would propose a new food packaging material that was not-recyclable.
If Starpol does not melt/weld under RF, friction or direct heat application, it will have serious disadvantages where sealed packages are needed (a high percentage I would guess) Introducing a glue or welding sheet as mentioned by GOTYA would mean an extra component and extra cost. AND render it non re-cyclable.

But to empahise with some others in the thread a couple of year back I sold firetone diamonds when they fell. I had some QXL at around 20p and sold when they fell and I sold Stagecoach at 25p! To look back on contract notes from 3 years ago makes one realise that we could all have been very much richer by ignoring the logical. SO I'm still in! Though I still say the managenment need replacing.

rpaco- think management is trying hard and we all know that for a company with 52 names on the payroll it is not easy to get a foot in the door with the likes of asda and wm to name a few, but they have succeeded. I admit that some of the roll out problems could have been foreseen but replacing management is both totally uncalled for and in practical terms near impossible considering the CURRENT size of the company

Starpol does weld under RF rpaco.

However your analysis in the first line is good. WM will follow asda. Asda are yet to get any supplier to buy GS. Starpol and GS would then follow. Weeks/months later if it all works very well WM would enter deals.

Anyone who thinks otherwise is deluded and does not understand fundemental change re engineering. In short it has and will continue to cost them in sp drops.

I'll leave it at that and let the russian control the board and freedom of speech until the time is right.

Good luck.

rpaco, you say

'Because of the management's appaling ignorance and/or arrogance in not researching the basic marketing requirements for the product, we were stuck with a 2 year wait until reality dawned on them. Another year to go yet I reckon on GS.'

From the History of Tetrapak, link below

'After the first invention in 1944 it took nearly 10 years until a feasible material could be produced on a large scale. RubenRausing summarised the extent of the problem: Doing some-thing that nobody else has done before is actually quite hard.
http://www.tetrapak.com/docs/the%20history.pdf

SEO's management have and are doing just fine - they are 'Doing some-thing that nobody else has done before'. That takes time.

ps "The Management" I have huge respect for, seo are small and have achieved amazing progress.

It could and should have been done better, but the future is all that can be changed. They now have more experienced players like Martin W. They need to put more effort into sorting GS and need greater skilled capacity to add to the seo team. It should have been rather obvious from day 1 that packers could not/cannot afford down time on lines.

There is still much to do before any deals will drop so expect 7.5 - 12p as a guide. I'm not saying the sp will saty within these, it's purely my guess oblomov, but at least I'm making one based upon sound research and experience.

Gotcha's gone soft.lol

parrisf

Have followed this thread for some time. Just thought you'd like to know that I'm still in as well. Let's hope it's not like all my other penny shares REF, BS., GBINTL, and more.

Kimoldfield,

You say...The only problem I have with the delay is that during this time the competition, of which there is a lot, is catching up with SEO.

The thing is those other products will have to go through the same hoops as SEO.
It's often been said that when technology reaches the end product, other newer and better products are already on the drawing board. Think of it this way. Look at aircraft technology for example. The most modern aircraft that are flying today are probably about 5 to 10 years out of date in technology terms against those just reaching the design state. Hope the previous made sense. Well I understood it anyway.

Yes, I think I understand GM, what you are saying is that the MOD will soon be retrofitting their fighter planes with Greenseal machines, so SEO will be real high flyers?!

I agree that the competition will have problems too, let's hope they are not first to solve them!
kim

Been out of the country for a couple of days and two things happen:
1: The sp recovers slightly...whooppeeee
2: Some geezer by the name of Gotya magically appears, spouts a load of drivel, the old II "GS is dead in the water" line and then promises to:
"I'll only post again when I know the GS commercials work and there's likely to be GS orders flowing as a result. I cannot be more helpful than that and I know when to stop hitting the wall with my head! Expect seo to trade between 7.5p and 12p until deals are done. The next correction will affect seo again; it will come!

Goodnight and good luck to those who have open minds and value debate".

.....only to continue bloody posting.

Another bit of bull:
"Starpol being made from strach and several other additives delivers full benefits but requires RF GS sealing inorder to retain the benefits of the enviro label. Yes you can heat seal starpol, but why bother? it defeats the objective"

Starpol is biodegradable, it can be heat sealed but if memory serves me right there could be an issue with cross-linking, which I recall could be some embrittlement of the seal. The "enviro label" as far as anyone is concerned is still intact as Starpol would still be biodegradle and would also be replacing a petro-plastic regardless of the sealing method.

Nice rns

Its a wrap!!