bosley
- 20 Feb 2004 09:34
oblomov
- 25 May 2006 17:05
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P.S.
Also a similar app. in the States - this should link to details:-
http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=doc&state=4r32gr.2.3
edit: P.P.S. - doesn't link now, but broadly speaking the U.S. app covers the same as the EU app.
tweenie
- 25 May 2006 17:06
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had a quick trawl on t'internet re pricing for wax wraps for food packaging. it ain't as cheap as I imagined $50 per 10000 sheets seems about average.
Anyone know how many McD's get through worldwide in a year?
I'm slightly more happier and can almost taste the 'jam tommorrow'
nice find OBLOMOV.
hewittalan6
- 25 May 2006 17:19
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Sorry, Gentlemen, but "Jam Tomorrow" has been referred to the "Axiom and Maxim Revue Board" for further consideration.
Any use of the phrase will be reported to the "Cliche Complaints Commission", who will come down on you like a ton of bricks until the cows come home.
Thank you.
Biscuit
- 25 May 2006 17:30
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I think someone put the decimal in the wrong place on that last trade!
treikiman
- 25 May 2006 17:31
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nice half million buy after hours
kimoldfield
- 25 May 2006 17:32
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Hmm, a sticky situation for some then Alan! Talking about the cows coming home, my wife is due back any minute so i had better get back to mowing the swamp. (I REALLY did not mean that, she is one in a million!).
A good spot indead Oblomov. Tesco are introducing degradeable bags by September, have SEO got a foot in the door?
kim
kimoldfield
- 25 May 2006 17:33
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Yes Biscuit, I noticed that and my whole future flashed before my eyes!!
kim
harwood27
- 25 May 2006 19:00
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according to Shares Mag today the bio bags are from Symphony Plastics(SYM:AIM)
for Tesco with Asda.Sainsbury and Morrisons also expected to follow
oblomov
- 25 May 2006 19:08
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Harwood,
excuse me for being thick, but which bio bags?
TB=Hold
kimoldfield
- 25 May 2006 19:11
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Harwood27
Mm, yes on page 8 but not yet confirmed that Tesco will use Symphony. It has to be said that they are a good company and the sp is ripe for a punt, but I will stick with SEO; maybe a merger/takeover one day?
kim
kimoldfield
- 25 May 2006 19:13
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There is, of course, a difference between degradable and biodegradable. Answers on a postcard.
kim
garyble
- 25 May 2006 19:32
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Plastic bag issues in Australia
Posted May 23rd 2006 4:27PM by Andrew Barrow
Filed under: Business, Australia, Trends
I mentioned a few days ago the plan by UK supermarket Tescos to introduce bio-degradable carrier bags across the country. In Australia a similar plan has failed to produce the environmental benefits hoped for.

The Australian Government's economic advisory body has recommended ditching plans to wipe out their huge use of plastic bags (estimated ot be five billion plastic bags a year), saying the costs outweigh the benefits.
The idea to save marine wildlife and reduce litter was of course a good one but they say that plastic bags are not that great a threat to wildlife and that the authorities have not taken into account that bags are reused as bin liners. The commission argues that tougher anti-litter laws or harsher fines might be a better way of addressing litter.
The supermarket chains Woolworths and Coles have so far failed to meet a 50 per cent reduction target by the end of last year.
The image is from the BBC; an article on green issues.
garyble
- 25 May 2006 20:02
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Also:
Tesco introduces biodegradable plastic carrier bags
December 10, 2003 The Tesco supermarket chain is to start using biodegradable plastic carrier bags following a six months pilot trial. The bags will be made using Environmental Products' technology from Canada in which proprietary TDPA (Totally Degradable Plastic Additives) are added to the PE or PP film during production to render it degradable and ultimately biodegradable in a suitable disposal environment such as landfill or in soil. Before disposal bags can be reused or recycled without degrading.
The TDPA technology - which is also licensed to Ciba Specialty Chemicals for worldwide agricultural applications under the brand name Envirocare - differs from that in other biodegradable films in that the additives can be added at the machine throat, generally at letdown ratios of 2 - 3 per cent, and work by accelerating the oxidation of the plastic. The reaction is triggered by heat or UV light, and enhanced by mechanical stress and moisture.
Once the plastic begins to oxidise it becomes brittle and susceptible to the usual agents of degradation, such as moisture and microbes. Oxidation can start in five or six weeks.
Other biodegradable plastics use organic starch additives which can be digested by micro-organisms, but leave the plastic molecules. The action of these additives is triggered by moisture, which EPI says leaves them open to unplanned degradation. The EPI oxo-biodegradation process is triggered by light, heat or stress, but, says EPI, occurs at a rate tailored to the buyer's requirements, breaking down over months or years.
The Tesco contract follows market development by EPI's former UK agent Symphony Plastics which earlier this year conducted trials with Tesco and Safeway on EPI-treated rubbish bags.
Symphony broke away from EPI during the summer to concentrate on its own d2w additive technology - although EPI claimed that it terminated the contract because Symphony had fallen short on its agreed uptake of EPI additives. Subsequently Symphony signed an agreement to supply its additives to a retailer in North America, and for a distributor to sell them in Brazil.
zscrooge
- 25 May 2006 20:22
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Where's JJS?
EWRobson
- 25 May 2006 20:46
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No doubt squelched! He wouldn't shut up of his own accord, would he?
Incidentally, having recorded my acquisition today, I wonder who else has averaged down?
Eric
bhunt1910
- 25 May 2006 21:27
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Eric - I would love to join you - but fully committed in SEO and Chaco and MRP.
Actually - I need seo or chaco to rise just a tad tomorrow to get the cfd sharks off my back - those late buys in both seo and CHP are encouraging.
halfamil
- 25 May 2006 22:56
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Great news. I wasn't even aware of this one. Can't understand the negative comments. MadPad?
This could be bigger than Frogpack!!!
driver
- 25 May 2006 23:33
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Also on the bags from the Research Page, see Howard White's comment at the end.
37) France votes for ban on non-biodegradable bags
By Fiona Harvey in London
Published: October 14 2005 03:00 | Last updated: October 14 2005 03:00
Plastic bags could soon be passin France, following a vote by the national assembly to ban the use of non-biodegradable plastics in bags and packaging by 2010.
The bags have already become a rarer sight in the country, as a government initiative to reduce their use prompted a 20 per cent reduction in the number distributed in 2004.
France is following the example set by countries such as Ireland, which imposed a 15 cent (10p) levy on the bags in 2002, as well as South Africa, Rwanda and some Indian states, which have banned certain forms of bags.
In all these places, the number of bags used and found as litter dropped markedly.
Though plastic bags are routinely given out by supermarkets and shops, they do not naturally break down in the environment and can stay intact in landfill for an estimated 400 years. They also pose a threat to marine life and birds, which may choke on the bags or become trapped or entangled in them.
In the UK alone, shoppers use about 8bn plastic bags a year, the vast majority of which end up in landfill.
Forms of plastic bag that do break down in the environment have been available for years, but are not widely used because they are more expensive than conventional bags. However, the rising price of oil has made most forms of plastic dearer.
Howard White, managing director of Stanelco, which makes a biodegradable form of bag, said: "This is a way of being responsible to the environment while also saving millions of barrels of oil, and now is the time for action. Only legislation can make this happen."
In France, the ban has an extra dimension. The national assembly voted through the ban earlier this week as part of a series of measures on agriculture.
One green alternative to plastic made from petrochemicals is to make the bags from starch, which French legislators believe could provide a boost to the farming sector.
More countries may institute controls on plastic bags in the near future. In Germany, some legislators have been considering such a move, while a levy on the bags has been mooted by the Scottish National Executive
greekman
- 26 May 2006 08:12
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The approximate number of plastic bags consumed this year:
199,040,903,303 .
If you go onto the link it will show you a running figure of plastic bags.
It's amazing how many we use by the minute.
http://www.degradable.net/
greekman
- 26 May 2006 08:20
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In simple terms it appears degradable bags refers to plastic based with additives added to encourage degradation. Biogradeable appears to mean, made of total biodegradable substances, IE natural. ( Got a Z minus in science... bet you have never heard of that one....so any boffins out there, don't shoot me down ).