Will this increase or decrease the likelihood of terrorist actions in America, Europe and the rest of the world?

If you were a member of a family murdered in this conflict, would you be seeking revenge?

Should Tzipi Livni and Ehud Olmert, be tried for war crimes if or when this conflict comes to an end?

What will the price of oil be in 4 weeks time?

hey yuff,
Those two + haymaker are not in the habit of allowing facts to interfere with their opinions LOL

I think we all forget that we will die one day but cannot carry the wealth (if any) to our grave.

Do we need to kill or be killed in such unncessary conflicts? Why? Is that the message from god to misuse, invade, kill, or be killed for power?

All nations can live nicely along each other. They just need to forget the past and think about the future and respect humanity.

which law ?

Fred1new - 29 Apr 2010 10:00 - 1695 of 1704
If true, then the incident is barbaric and against international law.

Camelot

Give you a reference.

Try use of poisonous gas or gassing, Should help you.

Arabs have been gassing each other for years

nothing new there

seems the law is more honoured in the breach than in the observance

Got to say you meet all sorts on bulletin boards. On the one side we have ahoj advocating the removal of borders and surely everyone will get along just fine. On the other side we have Camelot who thinks gassing people is all in a day's work, together with In the Land of B who checks under his bed every night for anti-Semites. We have fahel who believes everything he reads. Finally, we have Fred on his own planet. You've got to laugh!

K: Don't leave out the Italians and the Scots.

as the arab mind set seems stuck in the 15th century, it possibly was all in a days work for them

Remember saddam used gas many mnay years ago on his own people Falajah I believe-so yes nothing new here for the Egyptians to gas the palestinians.

If they gas their own can you imagine what they would do to the Israelis??

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Who Says That Palestine Is Our Land?
Palestine belongs to the Arabs in the same sense that England belongs to the English
or France to the French. It is wrong and inhuman to impose the Jews on the Arabs.
What is going on in Palestine today cannot be justified by any moral code of conduct.
Surely it would be a crime against humanity to reduce the proud Arabs so that Palestine
can be restored to the Jews partly or wholly as their national home.
- Mahatma Gandhi Peaceful Ex-Leader of India (1938).

"Let us not ignore the truth ... politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves...
The country is theirs, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country.
- David Ben Gurion (Israeli Prime Minister 1949)

"There has been Anti-Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? No. They see one thing: we have come and we have stolen their [Palestinian] country. Why would they accept that?"
- David Ben Gurion (Israeli Prime Minister 1949)

AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL SAYS:
Human rights defenders working in the Occupied Territories of Palestine are at risk of attack by Israeli settlers. Amnesty International is concerned at the latest such attack against those who seek through their presence to afford protection to Palestinians and to bear witness to the abuses perpetrated against them by Israeli settlers in the area

Tove Johansson from Stockholm was with a small group of human rights workers to accompany
Palestinian schoolchildren to their homes. The 19-year old Swedish human rights worker had her
cheekbone broken by Israeli settlers.

American Rachel Corrie tried to stop Israel From bulldozing more Palestinian homes
The Israeli bulldozer drove over Rachel Corrie.Rachel Corrie was wounded by the bulldozer.
Rachel Corrie died in hospital.

American Tom Hurndall was Escorting Palestinian Children In 2004 and he was shot in the
Head.
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Poet and Author Alice Walker Speaking in Gaza

http://www.democracynow.org/blog/2010/4/13/poet_and_author_alice_walker_speaking_in_gaza

The Egyptians have denied gassing Palestinians. I don't know what the truth is, but I don't automatically believe everything which is said which is not verifiable.
Neither do I condemn whole nations or peoples or religions on the basis of the actions of a few people. That is the way of the mischievous, the ignorant, the stupid and the hate mongers. And is one of the core causes of wars.

I'm not fearful to condemn an entire nation when it needs to be.

If the Palestinians were to lay down their weapons there would be no more bloodshed. If the Israelis were to lay down their weapons there would be no more Israel.

ITl.

I don't think many would confuse you with a loving, understanding individual, but I do agree with the sentiment of most of posting 1714.

fred, I care not a jot for what you think.

Gausie, not all Palestinians want unending war and conflict and some want a reasonable settlement. They cannot be held responsible for the militants, just as all Muslims cannot be blamed for the actions of the murderous islamofascists.
Of course, the vast majority of Palestinians support a state of their own, and who can blame them. But until they lay down their weapons bloodshed will, as you say, continue. Peace requires a leap of faith from both sides, but a prolonged period of peace is a pre-requisite, and as long as they demand the extinction of Israel, they will never have anything.

"But until they lay down their weapons bloodshed will, as you say, continue."

Same argument was advanced by HMG to the IRA, but negotiations took place before this happened.

Although, there wasn't appropriation of land, property and ignoring of human rights at that time, in the ongoing conflict. (Decommissioning of arms was more, or less seen with a blind eye, but delayed the negotiations taking place at an earlier time.

Nor was there a government in Britain which would condone such policies.

At the end of the day, negotiation and a peace deal will occur, but for the time being it doesn't suit the internal politics of the present Israeli administration to do do.

The killing will continue!

He is very good. Watched some of his shows and some amazingly funny stuff and clever songs. Not a bad pianist either.

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'Israels choice of lawlessness and defiance
By William A. Cook

6 April 2010

William A. Cook considers what might have been had the Jews decided to work within international law, rather than defy it and seize most of Palestine by force and through ethnic cleansing, and live side by side with the Palestinians the indigenous inhabitants of the Palestine.

Unauthorized statements have been made to the effect that the purpose in view is to create a wholly Jewish Palestine

His Majestys Government regard any such expectation as impracticable and have no such aim in view. Nor have they at any time contemplated the disappearance or the subordination of the Arabic population, language or culture in Palestine. They would draw attention to the fact that the terms of the [Balfour] Declaration referred to, do not contemplate that Palestine as a whole should be converted into a Jewish National Home, but that such a home should be founded in Palestine His Majestys Government therefore now declare unequivocally that it is not part of their policy that Palestine should become a Jewish State. (Command Paper 1922, from the Avalon Project at Yale Law School, 19962000).

The above statement was approved by the Council of the League of Nations, thus establishing the legal charge for the British Mandate government. Together with the Sir Richard C. Catling papers, held in a Top Secret file in the Rhodes House Archives at Oxford University, to be released later this spring from Macmillan in the Introduction of the plight of the Palestinians, this declaration recorded by the Avalon Project graphically demonstrates how the Zionist-controlled forces within the Jewish community defied the legally established authorities in Palestine. This defiance continues to the present day.

Todays spat between friends, as reflected in the hassle between US President Barack Obama and Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu, forces reconsideration of Americas support of the defiant Israeli government, not because the halting of the settlements is the crucial issue but because Americas president has lost face, Americas reputation around the world has plummeted and the dangerous position our military face as a result of Israels belligerence threatens the United States security, as head of the US Central Command General David Petraeus testified before Congress in March this year.

"Because Israel controls our Congress, the president is essentially powerless to confront the forces that manoeuvre behind the scenes to thwart any US government, Republican or Democrat, from moving towards a just and balanced resolution of the Israel-Palestinian conflict."


It is becoming manifestly clear to everyone that the United States cannot be the broker for peace in the Middle East, but it can be a participant or consultant to an appropriately designed United Nations policy committee created to complete the partition plan established in Resolution 181 in November 1947. Because Israel controls our Congress, the president is essentially powerless to confront the forces that manoeuvre behind the scenes to thwart any US government, Republican or Democrat, from moving towards a just and balanced resolution of the Israel-Palestinian conflict. That means the president must move to hand back to the UN the responsibility to right the wrong done to the Palestinian people, putting before the world communities their organization as the means to achieve this end. Israel would have to accept rule by law or continue its defiance and isolate itself not only in the Middle East, but in the world of nations.
If justice becomes the beacon that guides the UN toward peace, it would have to begin at Resolution 181, the partition of Palestine. Assumptions were made at that point, assumptions that had both positive and negative effects. A moral determination was made that the Jews deserved a homeland as a consequence of the horrific slaughter that had decimated their people. The world accepted a moral responsibility to right that atrocity; in so doing, they assumed, perhaps unwittingly, that they could grant to the Jews a portion of another peoples land. That assumption, however, was not shared by the natives of that area. Yet the reality remains that the division and its assumptions became the basis for the existence of an Israeli and a Palestinian state.

Justice demands that Israel and the United Nations address the enormous inequities that exist in Palestine. There is no justice if the division of the land remains 86 per cent to 14 per cent when both populations are of approximately equal size, especially if the right of return is acted upon according to international law. There is no justice if Israel remains the controlling power over a faux state that cannot manage its own affairs and control its own destiny. There is no justice if Israel does not compensate those from whom it has stolen land and return to Palestine the natural resources it has commandeered. There is no justice if a reconfiguration of the land is not achieved so that both peoples can move freely from one sector of their country to another. There is no justice if the separation wall continues to imprison the Palestinians with its constant reminder that Israelis defied international law to impose their own and made visible the unacceptable attitude that one people has a right to psychologically and physically isolate others from communication with their neighbours or the world, a collective punishment that denies the very humanity of the people. There is no justice if the status quo remains the day-to-day reality of the Palestinians, because that way is a slow, torturous route to sickness, psychological torture, deprivation, starvation and death; it is the Israeli governments heinous action of a slow genocide acted out on the world stage as the European Union, the Asian nations and America look on indifferently.

There is no justice if the United States blocks the UN Security Council from enforcing the means to bring about justice in Palestine, an action that may require the UN to stand against the United States or lose its credibility as an international body that protects the weak as well as the strong. And, conversely, there is no justice if the Palestinians do not accept the people of Israel to live in peace and security, in separate states or in one, so that all may thrive and enjoy the fruits of their labour.

Four score and eight years ago, a not unusual span of life for a man or woman, the British government, His Majestys Government, viewed with favour the establishment in Palestine of a home for the Jewish people, declaring, as the Avalon Project notes, that the whole of Palestine would not be turned into a Jewish state. Yet, a handful of Zionist Ashkenazi Jews from Europe took control of the growing Jewish immigrant community through the 1930s and 1940s, (recorded in morbid and frightening detail by Ilan Pappe in The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine, 2006), and clandestinely worked against the British Mandate government in their own war of terror to undermine the British kings intent that supported the existence of a home for the Jews, not the creation of a Jewish nation on the land of the Palestinians. Today the United States, having devoted its wealth in the billions of dollars and its military personnel to this country, supporting in the process a deception of enormous magnitude with tragic consequences for the Palestinian people and the people of Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan, finds itself, as its generals now attest, suffering the consequences of that deceit as its actions in the Middle East, executed on behalf of Israel, become the seeds of violence that can destroy the country.

How unfortunate that the sympathy of Europeans and Americans for the plight of the Jews at the end of World War II, indeed of the community of nations that compose the United Nations when they offered them a home in Palestine through Resolution 181, should have been turned by deceit and propaganda into an apartheid state that has ruthlessly subjugated the indigenous population as they appropriated their land and imprisoned them behind concrete walls and electrified chain-link fences making impossible a normal life. How unfortunate that Americans have devoted so much of their wealth to a nation that had no intention of complying with the British government in 1940 or the United Nations Partition Plan to provide for both peoples, but rather to claim that they were the victims of those who wanted to destroy them and drive them into the sea. How unfortunate for the indigenous people that they were driven into the sea as the armies in the tens of thousands of Jews swarmed down upon their villages and wiped them off the map. How unfortunate that United States congressmen and women have become the pawns of a power that threatens their political will if they disobey the dictates of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) regardless of the consequences to American soldiers and American security.

Consider what might have been. What if the immigrant Jews had arrived in Palestine and the British-created Jewish Agency had cooperated with the Mandate police rather than clandestinely worked against it, to fashion a home for the Jews living side by side with the Palestinians who owned all but 6 per cent of the Mandate land governed by Britain. Consider how things might now be with a Jewish population unencumbered with the fanatical sects from Russia that drive the apartheid demands that corrode the very core of Judaism with their sick understanding of their historical right to a land because they are Gods chosen and the goyim [gentiles] are subhuman. Consider the richness of that land in mind and soul had these people worked together to fashion a state that would be a doorway for the west to the east and not the source of vengeance and violence that it has become. What if rule by law had prevailed and not rule by defiance.


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William A. Cook is a professor of English at the University of La Verne in southern California. His works include Psalms for the 21st Century, Tracking Deception: Bush Mid-East Policy, The Rape of Palestine, The Chronicles of Nefaria, a novella, and coming in June from Macmillan, The Plight of the Palestinians. Articles by Cook appear in Counterpunch, the Palestine Chronicle, MWC News, Pacific Free Press, Atlantic Free Press, Dissident Voice and Countercurrents among others. He can be reached at wcook@laverne.edu and www.drwilliamacook.com.'
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fahel-do you ever read what you post or do you just google anti Israeli propaganda??