bosley
- 20 Feb 2004 09:34
Oilywag
- 02 Jun 2006 08:13
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Ta muchly
This arrived from PM1
Hi All,
I have had several questions about a placing rumour, it's true, but the price is wrong, it's actually a wee bit higher.
Apparently it's not huge, the company just got caught out by the market drop, or it would have been at a much better price, such is life !
Cheers,
Paul
The oily one
greekman
- 02 Jun 2006 08:51
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Stanelco PLC
02 June 2006
Stanelco plc (the 'Company')
2 June 2006
Placing of New Ordinary Shares
The Board of Stanelco plc, the radio frequency (RF) applications group, is
pleased to announce the conditional placing by Teather & Greenwood of 46,939,939
ordinary shares ('New Ordinary Shares') at a price of 8.1p per share to raise
approximately GBP 3.8 million (approximately GBP 3.7 million after expenses
greekman
- 02 Jun 2006 09:10
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I feel this placing is not a bad sign. SEO were not desperate for cash so could have waited till the sp rose, even slightly.
A placing now, I feel indicates, some good news to follow. This placing puts them on a better footing should a deal be imminent.
Will be interesting to see how the market looks at it
garyble
- 02 Jun 2006 09:16
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I too feel that it is not a bad sign, but SEO must be desparate for funds or else they could have waited. I think they need to show commitment and have sufficient cash upfront as part of a deal they must be finalising.
Logically IMO, the next news should be detailing exactly where the money is going!
WOODIE
- 02 Jun 2006 10:21
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copy of my posts from may
one of the reasons for the new down turn in the s/price is they are having trouble with several complexities that have delayed matters.the machine has not worked as well as expected .engineers are"fine tune the r&d elements" .also no profitis likely in 2007 but this might slip back until 2008 another negitive is if no profit until 2008 the company will have to go to the market to raise money.
how many of you will take part in a open offer for more shares if they run out of cash as i said earlier thats what the market is telling you?
what is not good for all those holding you did not get a chance to save further dilutiuon of your holdings.
as i said when i got stick from some of you all i was trying to do is make some of you aware what might happen.
garyble
- 02 Jun 2006 10:22
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Well thats OK then. Disappointed they didn,t let me know in advance though....don't like surprises!
Cantlose
- 02 Jun 2006 10:45
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It will be interesting to know what the cash raised will be used for.
I seem to recall that the first instalment(of 2) payments of $3.125 million for the Biotec acquisition is due about now.
Could the cash be for this?
Would T&G have taken on the placement if it was just to fund current operations?
Hope there is good news soon.
Still a long term hold.
greekman
- 02 Jun 2006 11:01
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Cantlose,
Yes that is another pointer to something such as a deal coming out very soon. Strange that they have not stated what the placing is for. Could it be that to give a hint now might put a deal in jeopardy. Perhaps SEO and whoever are finishing the finer detail. No evidence re this so it's just a thought.
Sharesure
- 02 Jun 2006 11:21
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greekman, I go along with that theory; the need for secrecy regarding the hamburger trials etc all seems to add up to a very different approach to news mgt. compared with the past where they gave too much too fast. Some time ago I was told that there was a big expectation of landing at least one of three company changing orders in June. I hope that that comment might prove to have been more than someone else trying to ramp the sp for their own short term gain. Maybe the sell in May come back on Derby Day will be spot on for SEO.
greekman
- 02 Jun 2006 12:02
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Sharesure,
As you rightly say in the past they did give too much info too fast. If it is to be put toward some sort of deal, and at the final minute it did not come off, the market through the regulator might also be a tad displeased. We have complained before about SEO and misleading info. Anyone out there who can give a good reason ( apart from what we have already said ) why no reason has been given for the placing.
EWRobson
- 02 Jun 2006 12:08
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The cash position at 31st Oct was 4.1m so SEO must be getting well through that. So the funds will be to take them through the next few months. There is nothing negative about that, all normal business. Given that the funding is completed (likely as T&G will have initiated release) we have a support level at 8.1p so it is really a one-way bet from here. Moreover, the somewhat more restrained statement shows positive progress. Wrap 100 is approved in the USA and moving into live trials with Mcdonalds, presumably. The implications of the Greenseal statements appears to be that we may be on the brink of actually achieving successful conversions. We already know that first new machine delivery is in about 4 weeks time. Take out the last year (!) and this would all be very positive indeed. Remember the expression of confidence that we would be back on track and therefore the original Greenseal projections would hold good, albeit with a one year delay. Also, ASDA exclusivity ends 8 weeks after the new machine delivery so that additional orders should come through from other UK supermarkets. What else do you want? Oh yes, a rise in sp - but surely even bos wants to rebuild his holding first!
Eric
garyble
- 02 Jun 2006 12:38
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EWR,
My understanding was: the first commercial installation would be within 8 weeks of the statement date which brings us to the end of June. I assumed it was a conversion not a new machine.
From PRW:
There is slower progress in Stanelcos Greenseal technology. Deals were signed for the radio frequency sealing technology in July 2005, but Stanelco admits it has still not made its first delivery.
Wagner said: We were slightly nae thinking it would be easy to retrofit machines. We had to buy replacement machines in the end which took three months but now we are up and running. We will be placing the first contracted machine in the next eight weeks.
Cantlose,
I sincerely hope that SEO are all paid up on the Biotec acquisition as the full cost was initially $25m which was subsequently split 50:50, so $12m from SEO who had already shelled out $1.23m leaving $11.77m.
The Final results stated that SEO had used 7.1m towards the first installment of the Biotec acquisition by my reckonning thats well over $12m so can only hope Sphere are paying the rest!
Interestingly, Sphere should have already paid SEO $6.25m where did that go?
The 12 month post completion installment of $6.25m for the Biotec acquisition is not due until September.
EWRobson
- 02 Jun 2006 13:06
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garyble: I had been going by the same statement. This refers to new machines, the first going in within 8 weeks (of 10 May). The AGM statement said 8 weeks to first commercial installation (from 2 May). Today's statement refers to Multivac conversion machines going well in trials and that Proseal AP60 'currently being converted for Hitchin Foods is consistently performing in our factory in Southampton having run for 8 hours continuously for several days without any issues'. These machines will presumably be finally commissioned when the trials are complete and machines operational on site - this depends on this fact and not an 80 day period. Therefore the earlier statements would appear to apply to the new machine(s). Do you agree? Whichever way, we do seem to be coming up to speed, although still in first gear!
Eric
explosive
- 02 Jun 2006 13:49
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End of the day the news is all positive and forward moving, I'm still confident that momentumn will increase once the technology is being used. Still in first gear as Eric points out but we could well be in second come August.
WOODIE
- 02 Jun 2006 13:56
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copy of email received i tried to get the answer some of you wanted but the company would not play ball
"We are unable to answer specific questions at present due to stock exchange rules we are also in a closed period."
Best regards
Sylvia Leavey
Corporate Executive Secretary & HR Manager
Stanelco plc
edit the question i asked was what was the money raised to be used for
Cantlose
- 02 Jun 2006 14:05
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garyble
Extract from RNS 5/9/2005
"Stanelco, the RF (radio frequency) applications group, is pleased to announce
that the acquisition of Biotec Holdings GmbH and subsidiaries ('Biotec') from E.
Khashoggi Industries LLC ('EKI') has now been completed. Following the
acquisition, the Company has now completed the sale of a 50% stake in Biotec to
SP Metal S.A. ('SP Metal'), thereby creating a joint venture (the 'JV'). SP
Metal is the leading European manufacturer of household packaging products.
Details of the JV were included in the initial announcement made on 5th July
2005.
Extract from RNS 5/7/2005
"Stanelco plc, the RF (radio frequency) applications group, is pleased to
announce that it has binding Heads of Agreement with SP Metal the leading
European manufacturer of household packaging products, for the sale of a 50%
interest in Biotec Holdings GmbH and subsidiaries ('Biotec'). Payment to
Stanelco will be satisfied through an initial consideration of US$6.25m in cash
with a further US$6.25m to be paid in two equal instalments payable on the 12th
and 24th months after closing. The deferred payments are not subject to the
satisfaction of performance criteria.
The consideration received by Stanelco will be used to fund 50% of the Biotec
acquisition as announced by Stanelco on 6th June 2005."
My understanding of the above is that SEO bought Biotec for $25m less $12.5m then sold on 50% to SP Metal.That leaves $12.5m due from SEO to EKI spread over 2 instalments(less $6.25m from SP Metal to SEO over 2 instalments).
The net effect is that SEO owe EKI $6.25m ($3.125m on 6/6/06 & $3.125m on 6/6/07).
Hope this clears up my reasoning for the injection of cash now by the T&G placing.
Hope the first due payment date is not a bad Omen!
bosley
- 02 Jun 2006 14:23
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garyble
- 02 Jun 2006 14:55
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Cantlose,
I do see where you're coming from but:
From RNS of 06/06/05:
Of the total consideration, US$1.23 million has already been paid in cash to EKI
as a non-refundable deposit. A further US$11.27 million is due to be paid on
completion of the acquisition which will be satisfied in cash. A further
US$6.25 million in cash is due to be paid in 12 months and a final payment of
US$6.25 million in cash is due 12 months thereafter. The deferred elements are
not subject to performance criteria. Stanelco is currently considering a number
of options for funding the acquisition, which may include the entering into
arrangements for debt facilities and/or a placing of ordinary shares for cash.
I make the date of completion 05/09/05 or thereabouts and therefore the next installemnt would follow 12 months from that date.