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stanelco .......a new thread (SEO)     

bosley - 20 Feb 2004 09:34

Chart.aspx?Provider=EODIntra&Code=SEO&SiChart.aspx?Provider=EODIntra&Code=SEO&Si

for more information about stanelco click on the links.

driver's research page link
http://www.moneyam.com/InvestorsRoom/posts.php?tid=7681#lastread
website link
http://www.stanelco.co.uk/index.htm


ptholden - 09 Jun 2006 01:54 - 17186 of 27111

They are listed as unknown, because the software that MAM uses to determine sells / buys places the trade dependant on which side of the mid price it is reported. On this occasion the price was at the mid so the software puts it in the unknown category. You have no way of knowing if they were buys or sells, and just because the SP did not fall, do not assume that they were not sells, conversley the opposite applies. Following a significant sized placing there is always a possibility that one of the institutions who took up the offer may have turned their position around for a quick 180k, nice work if you can get it. The whole point being that you can work up any story to explain those trades, good or bad.

pth

greekman - 09 Jun 2006 07:20 - 17187 of 27111

Yes, I agree there is no way of knowing if buy or sell, but the market must know.
As far as I am aware,the deal can only be done through the market. That's what throws me. After a deal that size no big movement. Oh well this subject is getting a bit hammered so I will give it a rest.
Nice sunny day again. Dow finished up. What can possibly go wrong on the markets today. Forever the optimist.

greekman - 09 Jun 2006 07:31 - 17188 of 27111

A 6 mill plus overnight BC trade has just come up as a sell 9p. I give up. Will just wait and see.

oblomov - 09 Jun 2006 07:48 - 17189 of 27111

MAM showing the SP as 10.50 now (7:50 am) - Thats quite a leap if it really opens there. Would suggest a buy(?).

bhunt1910 - 09 Jun 2006 07:59 - 17190 of 27111

It does that every morning Oblo - until the MM's get their prices sorted out. Then miraculously - just before 8 am - the price usually goes back to within .25 of its closing price - unless of course there is big news to effect its sp.

oblomov - 09 Jun 2006 08:03 - 17191 of 27111

I think I'll restrict myself to one look a day just before 8 in future - ignorance is bliss!

greekman - 09 Jun 2006 08:06 - 17192 of 27111

Oblomov,

Don't worry, it's a nice sunny day, the Dow finished up, Seo at least opened level.
What can possibly go wrong in the markets today. Forever the optimist.

oblomov - 09 Jun 2006 08:19 - 17193 of 27111


Yeah, think I sell my entire holding and buy a sun lounger - its a far cry from a new Bentley, but thats life! lol

Mad Pad - 09 Jun 2006 09:41 - 17194 of 27111

Oblo B+G, have one on special for 14.99.Can you afford that!PS Mulsanne going great.

oblomov - 09 Jun 2006 09:50 - 17195 of 27111



Thanks Mad Pad, that'll leave me with enough for a few G & T's, assuming the SP doesn't fall any further!

olivier - 10 Jun 2006 05:31 - 17196 of 27111

does anybody know
if it is true that PERSICO came in London two days ago
to meet Stanelco ??

driver - 10 Jun 2006 10:23 - 17197 of 27111

olivier
Yes it's true I spotted them on the No 9 bus going down Oxford St.

oblomov - 10 Jun 2006 11:05 - 17198 of 27111


I can confirm that - there they go. Unfortunately, the bus was heading the wrong way up the bus lane, they arrived late and missed the meeting!


cynic - 10 Jun 2006 16:27 - 17199 of 27111

Greekman .....nothingcould go wrong except Dow falling 50 points in the last 15 minutes of trades .... Let's hope F/E and London does not catch fright at that on Monday morning, albeit that that took Dow significantly back below the support/resistance level of 109640

soul traders - 10 Jun 2006 19:41 - 17200 of 27111

Evening all - a quick thought on the subject of competition, e.g. from the likes of BASF as discussed a few posts back.

I would assume that the market is large enough to support a number of players and that even the first/the best would not corner more than a sizeable chunk thereof. There is also the issue of speed of roll-out internationally, gearing-up of manufacture, etc. all of which takes time and allows competitors to play.

IMO this pizza's big enough for everyone to have a bite.

hewittalan6 - 11 Jun 2006 19:56 - 17201 of 27111

Forgive me if I am a bit reluctant on my sources, but all he will allow me to say is that he is a senior buyer within an Asda department, who are particularly affected by the Starpol and Greenseal trials.
In discussion with him over the weekend he told me several key things.
1) Walmart looking over the trials and new packaging is absolute company policy. They would do that regardless of any interest in the product. It is as much about ensuring Asda are aware of big brother as much as anything. It is WM policy to be very overt on checking up on subsidiaries and suppliers.
2) They will only buy into the SEO products if there is a demonstrable cost saving to be made. They wish to appear as good neighbours but that is ultimately second to profit.
3) Asda, and WM have a concern over the "greeness" of Starpol. While they accept that the product itself is environmentally friendly, the production of it is not. Particularly they have calculated that the raw starch material travels an astonishing 19000 air miles on its way to becoming Starpol. They are worried that if they try to capitalise on a green image, this will become public and the environmentalists will make them look a bit stupid!!
4) Apparantly, SEO are unable to promise that the starch used in Starpol is GM free. Asda and WM feel this would also tarnish the environmental badge.
My friend would not be drawn on the success or otherwise of the trials, and would only smile knowingly when I broached the Wrap subject.
In summary, he feels that Asda, and WM will buy Starpol in huge quantities, but only if those last 3 question marks can be addressed.
I apologise for not bringing this to the boards attention sooner, but I have only known this man for 5 months and until Saturday, I had no idea what he did for a living!!
My confidence is knocked somewhat, but I am staying in and seeing it out.
As usual, DYOR etc. but this source is very reliable. Remember he heads up a world wide sourcing and buying team for ASDA, with a budget measured in 9 figures, on a product range that is very closely associated with Starpol / Greenseal.
Alan

cynic - 11 Jun 2006 20:31 - 17202 of 27111

Sorry hewitt, but the above reads like the biggest load of hogwash i have ever seen in my very long life.

ptholden - 11 Jun 2006 20:40 - 17203 of 27111

Perhaps you would like to elucidate Cynic, rather than your usual inane comment?
By the way, how exactly do you choose which stocks to invest in, considering that by your own admission you know nothing about either Technical Analysis or Fundamentals?

EWRobson - 11 Jun 2006 21:29 - 17204 of 27111

Interested in your post Alan. Interested in comments. Given that Starpol is at an early production stage, the mileage and GM issues don't sound significant. If you want that product and set up a micro plant then materials would be sourced closer to home and you would ensure that they were GM free. The comment sounds more like knocking copy than serious evaluation.

Eric

driver - 11 Jun 2006 21:34 - 17205 of 27111

Al
Friends in such high places.
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