Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Can we look after our own pension, and buy a house or something like that?
Any comment would be appreciated.

ahoj . I control my money RETIRED AT 54 . now 64 never put money into a pension .
that is for dimwits .buy good div shares and always sell before div .then buy back if when they drop twice as much which most do .put as much money as you can in to isa ever year tax free . no charges .if you arte married put them in joint names double CGT you will always get more shares after div so your stock goes up.

ahoj . and buy bank shares they are going to be a lot higher in 12 months at list double trust me on that.

Thank you Tanker. Very much appreciated.

ahoj - Government health warning on Tankers tips, ask him about RSA :O)

Don't mention the war! :-)

Ahoy,

There are many low paid workers. who have worked all their lives, paid their bills etc. and barely had enough money for what many of us consider "simple" pleasures.

There are others who are incompetent and unable for many reasons to think, or prepare for the future if things go A over T. like in the present economic chaos.

I am not sure which age group you are in, but if I had had a major chronic illness in my late twenties or thirties, by style of living and expectations of my family and others would have been different.

A paid for education, welfare, social and medical services paid for out of taxation are the basic needs of a civilised state.


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Tanker,

I hope you are right about banks.

I hold a embarrassing number of them!

Jimmy Carr.

I wish Cameron would be as condemning about members of his own cabinet and MPS who were "confused", when claiming more "expenses" than they were entitled and have off shore accounts in their own names and that of their wives or boyfriends.

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For "confused" consider "hypocritical lying thieves".

With them for examples, who wouldn't expect crime to be committed by the young unemployed.

Bank shares "double in 12 months"? At the expense of the tax payers presumably. Personally I wouldn't touch bank shares with a bargepole - they spend far too much money on advertising and sports sponsorship = what a waste. Mr Average Guy has to pay for all this indulgence. 81% of RBS is owned by the tax payers - were the tax payers consulted before RBS pumped £27million into sponsoring the Six Nations, were they consulted before they handed out lucrative sponsorship deals to Luke Donald, Jackie Stewart etc.etc. 600 staff to be laid off soon. The lunatics are running the asylum there and have been for too long imo.

The lunatics are running the asylum there and have been for too long imo.

As the only sane individual on this thread, I couldn't agree with you more, or less.

But I will hold Barcs etc. for the time being.

This is an odd thread, presumably fred1new was been ironic in declaring himself sane? A myopic view wishing cameron to condemn his cabinet members when in reality Cameron had to push Gordon Brown to come clean.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/dec/09/cameron-challenges-brown-mps-expenses
Selective memory or just plain sane?Odd very very odd.

Fred, Barcs also pump £millions, or £squillions, into sponsoring Sky Sports coverage of golf. It's outrageous that these banks pump money into corporate entertainment on one hand and then they say that the mortgage rates are going up because they are strapped for cash.

The thing is that the banks are a business. They are in the business of making money not being charitable about how they hand out money. From my experience of working within Banks as a consultant, I have found that they are unusual in that their main guiding principle is to be in business in two hundred years time. Eveything else is of marginal importance.

This looks like an easy job, if you can stand heights

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HMWCDUfJMs&feature=related

Hays,

God help me, I have to agree again.

The reasons for the promoting "Sporting Events" is self advertisement.

Both sides "benefit".

What are the drawbacks?

You need successful banks to have a successful economies.
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Chuckle,

Gordon is dead!

You have a new Mafia boss in charge!

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Tanker,

In another 10 years you may have matured in and be less robust and a little more subtle like me.

Possibly, having even another few years before full fruition.

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8-))

Windows Phone 8 system update announced by Microsoft

Windows Phone 8 shares much of its code with the firm's PC system, making it easier for developers to write programs for different types of devices.

The company said it should mean there would be some "amazing games" for handsets running its new release.

A tie-up with Nokia has already brought several Windows Phone devices to market, but sales lag some way behind models running Android or Apple's iOS.

Microsoft said Nokia, Samsung, HTC and Huawei would all be making devices powered by the system upgrade.

Turtles fossilised in sex embrace

Turtles killed as they were having sex and then fossilised in position have been described by scientists.

The remains of the 47-million-year old animals were unearthed in the famous Messel Pit near Darmstadt, Germany.

They were found as male-female pairs. In two cases, the males even had their tails tucked under their partners' as would be expected from the coital position.

What a way to go.

"Researchers think the turtles had initiated sex in the surface waters of the lake that once existed on the site, and were then overcome as they sank through deeper layers made toxic by the release of volcanic gases."

I hate it when that happens! :-)

Lol