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FTSE + FTSE 250 - consider trading (FTSE)     

cynic - 20 Oct 2007 12:12

rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.

for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ

for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance

goldfinger - 24 Dec 2014 10:20 - 17242 of 21973

7th of January for a week is traditionaly the time the market sells off.....but just for one week then comes back strong the week after.

Shortie - 24 Dec 2014 10:31 - 17243 of 21973

I'm staying short, have more than enough cover should the rally continue anyway..

Shortie - 24 Dec 2014 10:37 - 17244 of 21973

Does anyone use tradingfloor.com

Claret Dragon - 30 Dec 2014 15:13 - 17245 of 21973

Bit of a pasting for FTSE 100 Today

Shortie - 30 Dec 2014 15:17 - 17246 of 21973

No complaints here, still holding all my shorts..

Claret Dragon - 30 Dec 2014 15:19 - 17247 of 21973

Cut too early

Hiram Abif - 30 Dec 2014 15:22 - 17248 of 21973

DOW at all time high and good recent substantial gains in FTSE.

City and Institutional traders will be looking to take profits and crash the indexes also closing out for the quarter. Greece and post 2014 Q4 retail earnings could be the excuse they are looking for. There is more profit in 'saw tooth' index volatility than in straight lines indexes. (Cue shorters).

Probably crash will happen once bulk of traders and MMs are back early Jan 2015.

Cash is king ATM.

DYOR

HAb

cynic - 30 Dec 2014 15:33 - 17249 of 21973

absolutely shortie, though my current dow short was new late last week
Dow now starting to crumble, so may extend the position

:-)

Shortie - 30 Dec 2014 16:18 - 17250 of 21973

Hab,

I see no evidence that City and Institutional traders will be looking to take profits and crash the indexes closing out for the quarter... Honestly this statement is just madness, to further suggest that retail earnings and Greece would be an excuse to sell is also just crazy. Every large investor balances their risk, some investors may reduce holdings in certain places as risk weighs but wouldn't just sell out to crash an index on the basis of cost. You also state that "There is more profit in 'saw tooth' index volatility than in straight line indexes.... You state the obvious here, but fail to note the increased risk of trading one over the other. As for "Cash is King" well hasn't it always been!!

DYOR and think about it..!

Claret Dragon - 30 Dec 2014 16:21 - 17251 of 21973

100 points down on FTSE 100. Santa certainly shot off early this year.

goldfinger - 30 Dec 2014 21:34 - 17252 of 21973

Retail earnings off to a good start with NEXT today.

Have to say Shortie and Hab have both good points.

Historicaly the market goes tits up the first week of Jan ie from around the 7th. When big boys are back.

BUT this year the big boys are back next monday after 2 weeks off..........so be carefull.

jimmy b - 31 Dec 2014 12:22 - 17253 of 21973

I'm done for today .. Happy and prosperous New Year to all

HARRYCAT - 31 Dec 2014 13:47 - 17254 of 21973

Everyone is done for the day!!!
"The UK market closed at 12.30pm and is next open for trade on Friday."

Shortie - 31 Dec 2014 13:54 - 17255 of 21973

Yep, Happy New Year all, enjoy!! I have a few charts to analyse before I head home...

cynic - 31 Dec 2014 17:38 - 17256 of 21973

hi shortie; guess like me your enjoying today's dow performance :-)

Claret Dragon - 02 Jan 2015 09:36 - 17257 of 21973

Happy New Year to all Traders from my Lair.

Plenty of movement this morning.

Shortie - 02 Jan 2015 09:45 - 17258 of 21973

Hi Cynic, I'm just short on the FTSE and Dax right now... Very nice and shiny blue!

Shortie - 02 Jan 2015 09:58 - 17259 of 21973

Dax closed, nice start to the new year..

cynic - 02 Jan 2015 10:15 - 17260 of 21973

HNY shortie ..... i banked most of my dow short juicy profit before closedown on NYE, but the remainder are very nicely in the money

Shortie - 02 Jan 2015 10:22 - 17261 of 21973

HNY Cynic also... Just want to see some of those short term support numbers get eroded now to confirm a short position. Euro also looking good, a run to 1.32 I think we could see so I'm hoping to play that also.
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