bosley
- 20 Feb 2004 09:34
greekman
- 12 Jun 2006 16:35
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If SEO close down at -.5p it will be due to a bogus showing price on L2 Sets offering a sell @ nsm 10,206 at a nil price.
hewittalan6
- 12 Jun 2006 18:51
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Can I come out now??
Is the barbed wire gone? Can I take my tin helmet off?
oblomov
- 12 Jun 2006 19:30
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garyble
- 12 Jun 2006 20:44
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Greekman,
You comments re: BASF were noted but they have been in the bio-plastics arena for a few years with "Ecoflex" all they're doing now is adding 45% PLA to it to further improve its greenness.
http://www.ewire.com/display.cfm?Wire_ID=1651
Biodegradable Products Institute
06-23-2003
BASF's Ecoflex resins are a leading synthetic biodegradable plastic available worldwide. This aliphatic-aromatic copolyester is ideal for bags for collecting and composting food scraps and yard trimmings, disposable packaging or agricultural sheeting because it decomposes in compost within a few weeks without leaving any residues. Each grade within the Ecoflex product line has been optimized through control of branching and chain length to match particular application requirements. Thermoplastic starch improves its property profile when blended with Ecoflex resin for applications in films and coatings for food packaging. BASF manufactures Ecoflex resin in Ludwigshafen, Germany, at a plant with an annual production capacity of 8,000 metric tons.
garyble
- 12 Jun 2006 21:26
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The logistics issue with PLA could be aleviated if the following comes to pass:
From:
http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/BODY_AE210
"
The Nebraska facility will be capable of producing up to 300 million pounds (140,000 metric tons) of PLA per year, using 40,000 bushels of corn per day (9). Production is expected to more than triple -- to one billion pounds -- by 2007 (13). There are also plans to construct an additional plant in Europe sometime in the near future (4). By all indications, the opening of CDP's plant in Nebraska will significantly expand the market for polylactic acid polymers by making PLA available on a commercial scale."
rmhyams
- 12 Jun 2006 23:43
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As no-one has made any comments on my last post I will post it again.
"With regard to Alan's post number 17201, as we all should know Starpol is made by mixing PLA with TPS. PLA is made from corn starch, and is manufactured by Natureworks with whom Stanelco has got a supply agreement. Wal-Mart are using Natureworks' PLA. Stanelco have said that Starpol will be cheaper than the oil based plastic equivalent.
Therefore, according to Alan's friend, as the 3 question marks have been addressed as outlined above, Asda and Wal-Mart will be buying Starpol in huge quantities.
I look forward to the great news."
Or is it that this BB is a closed shop - even to someone who has been holding SEO for two years now
tweenie
- 13 Jun 2006 07:30
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rmhyams. I'm sure it's nothing personal, you can't expect a reply/acknowledgement to every comment made. I'm sure most on this board share your optimism.
hewittalan6
- 13 Jun 2006 07:44
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Wish I could give you the answer. I was simply told the question marks exist.
I have e-mailed SEO and asked the questions about GM and transportation/production green-ness and I will let you know the answer they give me.
I really believe, though I cannot support it, that WM like the product but are very wary of launching a green offensive unless they have irrefutable empirical evidence that the product really is ultra green.
Like many corporations, organisations exist with the explicit aim of destroying them and decrying anything they do. If there is any slight chink in the green armour, it would be spotted and they would be taken to task over it, destroying a huge PR opportunity.
I think we are witnessing caution from WM. Nothing more or less, and probably something that SEO can do nothing about, other than wait for WM to satisfy themselves. Please note that my contact had nothing bad at all to say about the Asda trials or the process.
I too look forward to the good news. The things I was told just made me think the news may take longer than I hoped and put a couple of doubts in my mind.
On the plus side, the fact he knew about them reassured me that if the buying / sourcing teams were involved and were aware of the questions, then surely the questions were being addressed and the stage set. If he had a blank expression, then I would have been very worried.
My original post was, funnily enough, intended to reflect my confidence, but with a note of caution. It seems to have been read as reflecting my caution with a hint of confidence.
Funny old world.
Alan
greekman
- 13 Jun 2006 08:03
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Rmhyams,Welcome
Not a closed shop at all, and I agree with your optimism. Your post did not as far as I could see pose a particular question so as Tweenie states not all posts are answered.
greekman
- 13 Jun 2006 08:14
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Garyble, Morning
As said I agree they are a threat. The words, "it's not a simple process and a workable product is still about THREE years away" are not mine but from the article on BASF. I will leave it at that.
Cheers Greek.
kimoldfield
- 13 Jun 2006 08:46
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You are right to be confident Alan, WM & ASDA have spent a lot of time with SEO, they won't want to see it all come to nothing. I hope you get a decent reply to your e-mail!
No need to worry about any competition at this stage either, SEO have more than a head start and are at the forefront for sorting out any little (or large) problems.
Rmhyams, hi, another reason for the silence was that we were all in shock thinking that Alan's word might have been doubted!
kim
kimoldfield
- 13 Jun 2006 09:26
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY Driver!
kim
bosley
- 13 Jun 2006 09:26
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driver , i thought it was yesterday?
kimoldfield
- 13 Jun 2006 09:28
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Don't worry Driver, this pig will bring home the bacon eventually, and jam!
kim
kimoldfield
- 13 Jun 2006 09:40
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Yes I am Driver, it's not doing much at the moment but I'm still dreaming!
kim