goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
skinny
- 22 Jun 2012 17:09
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Fred1new
- 23 Jun 2012 16:50
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Morality against legality.
When considering whether ”tax dodging and avoidance" is legal, morally “right”, or “wrong” and as to whether one should do it, in order to advantage oneself, or one’s own, at the expense of others, it may be worth consider the action of the Gestapo in the 30s and 40s .
At that time, the government of the German state defined many actions to be legal, which were then carried out by the Gestapo and others.
However, the majority of the world, consider many of those actions, although with the assent of the state at the time of their actions, to be immoral and later by the international courts to be criminal.
A state giving “permission” for something is “allowed” and can be legally “done”, does not make it morally right, or suggest that it should be done.
aldwickk
- 23 Jun 2012 17:33
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" it may be worth consider the action of the Gestapo in the 30s and 40s "
No Fred it wouldn't , this is 2012 and the comparison is really rather stupid even for you.
required field
- 23 Jun 2012 18:04
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My tax avoidance scheme is even better.....every time I go to a petrol station : I ask for a vat receipt but I'm not claiming vat.....mind blowing non ?....really brill.....
Fred1new
- 23 Jun 2012 18:20
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Alds.
Again.
Thank you for your intelligent contribution.
Very thoughtful, but don't strain yourself to-much again to-day.
Try having a lie down in a dark room.
TANKER
- 23 Jun 2012 19:16
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last year I paid more tax than osborne .
this country was great once due to the brittish people
who where born here .
now it is being raped by immigrants who have and will not
put anything in to the country perhaps 1% of tem might but even they bring benefit
scum with them if you look at the percentage of migrants claiming benefits you will
see why the NHS and schools are declineing down the pan .just go to the local shopping centres and listen they do not speak english what chance have these teachers got and I was one that thought they where the problem they are NOT it is
the parents of these kids .they waqnt to come and live and take benefits but want to
still live like back home so send them back.
aldwickk
- 24 Jun 2012 09:21
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greekman
- 24 Jun 2012 17:18
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Aldwickk,
Obviously a scare story to make you sign up, BUT it does allow you to go far enough to want to put up the barricades, not that that would do any good.
A long listen, but well worth it.
skinny
- 24 Jun 2012 17:38
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Muslim Brotherhood's Mursi declared Egypt president
The Muslim Brotherhood's Mohammed Mursi has been declared the winner of Egypt's presidential election run-off.
He won 51.73% of the vote, beating former PM Ahmed Shafiq, the Higher Presidential Election Commission said.
The head of the panel of judges, Farouq Sultan, said it had upheld some of the 466 complaints by the candidates, but that the election result still stood.
The announcement prompted scenes of jubilation in Cairo's Tahrir Square, where Mr Mursi's supporters gathered.
Fred1new
- 24 Jun 2012 18:07
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UMMMMM,
Wait and see!
Haystack
- 24 Jun 2012 18:30
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Nothing will happen. The new president has no power. There is no constitution and the army are going to write it some time. There is no parlament and no new elections of MPs arranged.
It looks like the army has allowed the Muslim Brotherhood to win by a small margin to pacify the crowds. It may take some time to see that it is a hollow victory. The next move by the army should show their intentions. It remains to be seen how long the army can hold things together before there is a new uprising, this time against the army.
Allowing the brotherhood to win is a clever ploy as they may be happy at present with their partial victory. The army may then 'arrange' for there to be a parliament of a non-brotherhood flavour meaning that neither the parliament nor the president has any real power. The army can then sit in the background controlling things for as long as they like.
Haystack
- 24 Jun 2012 18:32
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This is a significant development
Saudi government to allow its women athletes to compete in the London 2012 Olympics, BBC learn
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-18571193
aldwickk
- 24 Jun 2012 20:27
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Fred1new
- 24 Jun 2012 23:01
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Hays,
I think you are right for the short term.
Maybe, medium term.
Long term, don't know.
It is a pity that the "revolution" had no organised secular leadership from the beginning,
Glad I won't be living in Egypt.
skinny
- 25 Jun 2012 06:51
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What Britain used to look like from the air
From sprawling factory complexes to newly built suburban streets - by way of some of the UK's top sporting venues and seaside resorts. More than 10,000 images from one of the earliest collections of aerial photography are being made freely available on the web.
mnamreh
- 25 Jun 2012 06:59
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skinny
- 25 Jun 2012 07:13
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That's a fascinating link, but doesn't the following statement negate its usefulness as some people may have Parkinson's and not have been diagnosed and therefore state 'no'.?
"Anyone can call and they need to state whether or not they have been diagnosed with the disease".
mnamreh
- 25 Jun 2012 07:43
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skinny
- 25 Jun 2012 07:56
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TANKER
- 25 Jun 2012 08:01
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if you can n ot take a penalty you should pack up playing football.
how the hell did a cole get in a team he is useles and can not even play