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As i said earlier I will pump him vigorously, having penetrated his intimate circle, but as for the cricket, lets face it, we are crap.
And if he bowls like he did last week he will be in no fit state to answer any questions!!
We are to cricket, what piles are to Frankie Dettori.
And Kim, you reminded me, when a mathematician gets constipated do they work it out with a pencil??
Alan

Oblomov,

I think it's just down to the overnight closing figure for the Dow. All markets appear to be up.

Yes Greek, but not 9.38% up! I wish it were.

Point taken. That's the thing with these penny type shares, volatility often reigns for little reason. But as long as it's up who cares.

When you die.

In 1 about hour 1.350.000 bought. Someone must know more than a pie in the sky

I think it's more likely day traders , knowing results will be soon and news expected etc will drive sp up in short term. Until several GS conversions done and contracts under belt , this share will continue to be subject to serious yoyo'ing.
Still in for the long haul.

when in July is agm?

AGM has been (2nd May) Interim results are due, last year they came out on 29 June but I understand that they are earlier this year - can't confirm this, though I'm sure someone can!
kim

Just had a reply from terry at SEO about the Green-ness of SEO.
On the GM issue, Starpol is made using about 50% GM crop, but the fermentation process renders this irrelevant.
Transportation fuel usage are the same as all other plastics, as is the use of fossil fuels in manufacture, but better than paper.
The place it has an edge is that the growing crops absorb CO2, so it is CO2 neutral (anyone care to elucidate on the long term carbon cycle).
The upshot of a very technical e-mail is that Terry believes the product to be no worse from a manufacturing and transportation point of view that any other material, with the advantage of being biodegradable at the end of its useful life.
The mail is technical, and does go on about how the situation will improve as more product is used and how Natureworks can produce totally GM free product if required, and I can send a copy to those who wish to see it.
Before anyone starts with the privacy Bullsh*t, it is fine to pass it on as all the information has been cleared By TR for public sight.
Alan

Bugger it. I'll just paste it on here...........

Sir,



Without getting technical I hope I can answer your questions:



1) All PLA can be guaranteed GM free even if the source is GM crops as all GM signature is destroyed during the fermentation process of manufacture. However in reality the corn that goes into NatureWorks may come from genetically modified corn as about 50% of US corn has been modified in order to reduce the herbicides and pesticides used. NatureWorks has a cost offset programme set up that guarantees that if a company want GM free crop they will purchase that amount of raw material on your behalf and mix it with their regular stock. This way a company can honestly say they are buying GM free corn for the product. Alternatively NatureWorks will clean their plant and run guaranteed GM free corn if the order (and cost) is high enough. To make PLA you do not need GM crop, but in the USA a lot of corn has been genetically modified and most companies are taking a pragmatic view that it is better to use a partial GM source sustainable crop material rather than 100% fossil fuel material for food trays and other containers. NatureWorks could not sustain the world usage for PLA and as the demand grows other factories in various other parts of the world will produce PLA from non GM crop. Tate and Lyle have recently purchased the Hycail PLA pilot plant in Holland and will, in the fullness of time, be producing PLA from non GM stock. Others are following. Stanelco is talking to these companies on a regular basis. Whilst GM is a major world issue I believe the way to change things is to work with companies to change and by increasing the use of PLA world wide more factories will be built and non GM crop will be used. There are issues regarding GM in other crops, such as cotton and Soya and US cola drinks. About 50% of the worlds cotton is GM a great deal more Soya has been modified and the corn syrup going into US cola type drinks uses American corn, all of which makes the tiny amount of packaging made from sustainable products that may have come from GM crops a very small issue. Stanelco will purchase guaranteed GM free corn if its customers require it. Starpol 3000 has very little PLA, the main ingredient being starch, which is GM free European grown.



2) Starpol 2000 is currently made as a polymer in Germany, however as sales grow franchises and joint ventures manufacturing plants can be set up where ever the material is required. This is no different from any other plastic polymer which may come from the Far East or the USA to make packaging or other plastic components in any other part of the world.



3) Many plastics are currently transported around the world. Carrier bags for most of the European supermarkets are made in the Far East often from polymers that are made in the USA. The only commercial plant to make PLA is currently in the USA, so all PLA in the world is transported many miles. As the usage of PLA increases more plants will be built which will reduce the transportation down to below that of fossil fuel plastics as crops will be grown on each continent that has a factory. The transport energy used by PLA is generally no more than fossil fuel at the moment and can only improve.



4) The manufacture of PLA takes no more energy than standard fossil fuel plastics to make, however all the time the crop is growing it is absorbing CO2 from the atmosphere and is generally CO2 neutral which makes it more environmentally responsible than fossil fuel polymers towards global warming. If you compare energy efficiency between plastic and the most well known sustainable packaging product paper, you will find that paper uses 4 times more water than plastic, takes 4/5 times more energy and need about 5 times more vehicles on the road to deliver the finished good and 5 times more warehouse space to store paper bags compared to plastic bags. PLA material is comparative to a standard fossil fuel plastic in terms of energy use but with reduced greenhouse gasses.







I hope this helps, please call if you have any more queries.





Kind Regards



Terry Robins

Chief Operating Officer

Stanelco plc

Thanks Alan, would appreciate sight of the full mail. Can't elucidate on the long term carbon cycle but had a date with Lucy once!! It looks to me like WM & ASDA are being a trifle overcautious, but given WM's history who can blame them!

Good luck with the cricket/interrogation, I hope you have success in both!
kim

I see I'll have to improve my typing speed! Thanks again Alan.
kim

I wonder if WM have any other issues with SEO that have not come to light? I cannot see any reason for them holding back after reading TR's reply, they are just being very silly now!
kim

kim
I think you mean very very very silly now!

Thanks for sharing that, Alan. An encouraging read.

I second that cheers Al.

Yes, thanks Alan.

the longer WM hang it out, the more companys come to market producing biogradables, hence more choice, more bargaining power, cheaper