bosley
- 20 Feb 2004 09:34
hewittalan6
- 19 Jun 2006 17:33
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Dissappointing, slow, frustrating, enigmatic.
I can accept any of these epithets. Finished is a little strong.
Care to elucidate on the reasons behind that particular sentence. Appealing to REAL news please for your authority.
explosive
- 19 Jun 2006 18:01
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Thats for posting the email Alan.
GD Potts, how can you say SEO are finished!!! Do you even realise how many potential and producing revenue streams this company has? Maybe you were just referring to a single stream, please clarify your post and include evidence where at all possible.
tweenie
- 19 Jun 2006 18:09
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GD POTTS . I think SEO's legs are are a lot longer and attractive in the long term than SYM.
Took a nice profit from them, them dumped as I think it's being hyped at present.
Happy to hold SEO, may reinvest in SYM when it drops again.
It's only money, get a backbone and hold shares long term or accept your losses gracefully.
Paperbackwriter
- 19 Jun 2006 18:31
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GD Potts, You are potty to talk like that!
Sorry to hear about your (paper) loss.
Chin up, our patience will be rewarded.
G D Potts
- 19 Jun 2006 18:53
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Hewittalan6 - SEO are certainly slow and largely disappointing on all fronts, I agree with you there. However, for someone to use elucidate in a thread you must be educated and I see no reason why you could not comprehend my previous post. To summarise I am disappointed with SEO as a whole and when I stated real news I was referring to the fact that people on this thread tend to post comments not worth a second glance. (E.g. The articles that you are trying to link to SEO, Garbyle 16 June)
Explosive - POTENTIAL is the key word in your sentence, nothing of any importance has actually been agreed, and Im not saying that I dont invest on speculation but the speculation around SEO died long ago. (Just look at the share price).
Tweenie - You shouldnt have compared SEO to Symphony, SYM actually have the contracts to prove their worth above SEO, and also the speculation of new contracts with large retailers, (Yet they still have a market cap of only 7.5 million compared to SEOs 82 Million), I think you may have been unlucky to ditch them so early when it is clear that their potential, in terms of share price gain which is what we Invest for, is far greater than SEO.
'Its only money, get a backbone and hold shares long term or accept your losses gracefully', a rather distressing comment on your behalf. I assumed that most Investors, myself Included, look to make money and dont accept losses gracefully. With regard to 'Hold shares long term', that is only a strategy and one that is not mine. I would have hoped that you may have been open minded enough to realise that.
'Its only money' - another outrageous comment. Yes money is not all in this world, but in investing it is, so the sooner you realise that the better.
I look forward to your replies.
G D Potts
- 19 Jun 2006 18:54
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PaperBack I have only just spotted your reply and so cannot add it to the above, my patience expired long ago.
hewittalan6
- 19 Jun 2006 19:00
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Still no rationale for the word finished.
When I last checked, finished meant ended, done, over, emptied, used up or completed.
SEO is none of these. All of the negotiations may yet come to nothing, true.
I never disagreed with the tone of your post and your lack of patience over a share that has underperformed when measured against our hopes and dreams. I did get annoyed by that one word.
When there is an RNS saying that WM / Asda have walked away. McD and Persico have lost interest, nobody wants the ciggy filters, the patents are getting auctioned and numerous other things, then the word is justified.
Until then, simple logic says that the company is way from finished and is a lot closer to "only just started".
It may be a false start, it may not. That is the nature of the gambling addiction we call investing.
Alan
G D Potts
- 19 Jun 2006 19:17
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Finished may have been strong yet it appears that SEO is simply waltzing towards being finished in that it has done nothing worthy of explicit mention, i.e. signed a deal with Asda as you say.
SEO also seems to be waltzing fustratingly slowly, I admire your patience and defence of this company although I find it miss placed. Time will tell. (For me 2 months and then thats it, probably at 5p by then).
garyble
- 19 Jun 2006 19:23
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GDP,
Thanks for the mention. You certainly do seem to be somewhat peeved!
My posts of the 16th related to the mention by T. Robins of SEO's comms with Tate and Lyle and the fact that their Hycail plant does not yet produce any significant amount of PLA. You may deem it a tenuous link, but I see it as a medium term prospect of a major supply of PLA to Europe.
My investment strategy is medium to long so am happy to keep my interst in SEO intact until real news changes my opinion. The potential is immense.
You're not a long-term investor and have been caught out with this stock....poor you, stop bellyaching would you.
By the end of next week at the latest we should have the interims through and also a mention of the first commercial GS installation {I hope}.
hewittalan6
- 19 Jun 2006 19:31
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I hope so too. Not because I'm nervous, but because I'm off on my hols a week on Wednesday and would love to see the interims before I go, rather than have to look for them upon my return.
Still, like many on here, I will view the interims as nothing more, or less, than an interesting short term event, on the long road I set on with SEO.
Alan
G D Potts
- 19 Jun 2006 20:27
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Hewitt I wouldnt get too exicted... but we'll see.
And Garyble what a good word 'Peeved' is, Ive never heard that before and will be sure to try and use it.
I certainly am peeved and didnt mean to dicriminate agaisnt you as my example, your post was just one that looked very much like several others with no real link to SEO.
garyble
- 19 Jun 2006 22:14
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No probs GDP, I do appreciate views any which way as they provoke debate.
greekman
- 20 Jun 2006 10:03
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Hi G D P.
You say you bought these shares a few months ago. If you bought them for the medium to long term, as I did ( 2 to 5 years ) then I can see a good future profit, but if you bought for the short term, I can see why the frustration. I have followed SEO in depth for about 3 years so can say that on my research anything to do with packaging and it's future has possible effect on the future of the company. Because real news is in short supply we do tend to look for tentative links, which I feel is human nature.
As I have often stated, shares such as SEO are either almost total investment loss or sky high profits, this was my judgment on purchase, even more so when my initial purchase was made about 3 years ago.
I feel SEO are, due to all the info, trials etc released over the last year are just around the corner of big things. This is based on research and due to that balance of probability. We all have to judge.
I for one don't except any loss gracefully, but I am philosophical about it ( I think there's a difference).
Hope you stay with it but if you do sell, I hope you don't lose too much. IMHO of course.
tweenie
- 20 Jun 2006 11:34
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bye bye gdp. To avoid upsetting your sensitive persona, I'll try not to respond to any of your future bitter comments.
I wish you luck, Hope you come to terms with your losses in the LONG TERM.
In the SHORT term I wish you success with ramping sym.
lol
EWRobson
- 20 Jun 2006 12:01
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Just been catching up: cycle time increases with age, i.e. fewer cycles in a given time. Well done, Alan, its good to get the facts on the table. I think rmhyams comments may have been missed, though, that WalMart are already focussed on Natureworks so that the GM issue is not of major concern to them; it may be that ASDA are concerned because they think WM will be concerned. I suspect we are not dealing with people close to the action; as Terry Robins says - if GM-free content is required it can be provided. I suspect though that we are dealing with long cycle times (which is where I came in); hopefully, the statement with the interims will indicate progress. At least we should be in first gear re commercial Greenseal.
Eric
G D Potts
- 20 Jun 2006 12:08
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I merely enjoy the conflict between us Tweenie.
If I was to hold SEO for the LONG TERM then surely, no doubt about it, I would be coming to terms with profit would I not Tweenie?
Greekman - Well at least you have defended SEO with some good points, I was looking for more of a reply from Tweenie but it seems he lacks the zeal to tackle the points I propose.
For all other SEO holders spare a thought for Tweenie who seems to be struggling with his English and ability not to contradict himself.
Symphony all the Way.
EWRobson
- 20 Jun 2006 12:14
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1 million shares bought at 11.55 - an odd 90K. No movement in sp but likely to have soaked up some MM stock. Level 2 pretty balanced.
antofelli
- 20 Jun 2006 12:35
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Isn`t it 1.5 milion shares bought?
oblomov
- 20 Jun 2006 13:15
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2 x 750,000
automatic
- 20 Jun 2006 13:37
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1,500,000 BUY ADDS 0.15P
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