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Hi G D P.

You say you bought these shares a few months ago. If you bought them for the medium to long term, as I did ( 2 to 5 years ) then I can see a good future profit, but if you bought for the short term, I can see why the frustration. I have followed SEO in depth for about 3 years so can say that on my research anything to do with packaging and it's future has possible effect on the future of the company. Because real news is in short supply we do tend to look for tentative links, which I feel is human nature.
As I have often stated, shares such as SEO are either almost total investment loss or sky high profits, this was my judgment on purchase, even more so when my initial purchase was made about 3 years ago.
I feel SEO are, due to all the info, trials etc released over the last year are just around the corner of big things. This is based on research and due to that balance of probability. We all have to judge.
I for one don't except any loss gracefully, but I am philosophical about it ( I think there's a difference).
Hope you stay with it but if you do sell, I hope you don't lose too much. IMHO of course.

bye bye gdp. To avoid upsetting your sensitive persona, I'll try not to respond to any of your future bitter comments.
I wish you luck, Hope you come to terms with your losses in the LONG TERM.

In the SHORT term I wish you success with ramping sym.
lol

Just been catching up: cycle time increases with age, i.e. fewer cycles in a given time. Well done, Alan, its good to get the facts on the table. I think rmhyams comments may have been missed, though, that WalMart are already focussed on Natureworks so that the GM issue is not of major concern to them; it may be that ASDA are concerned because they think WM will be concerned. I suspect we are not dealing with people close to the action; as Terry Robins says - if GM-free content is required it can be provided. I suspect though that we are dealing with long cycle times (which is where I came in); hopefully, the statement with the interims will indicate progress. At least we should be in first gear re commercial Greenseal.

Eric

I merely enjoy the conflict between us Tweenie.
If I was to hold SEO for the LONG TERM then surely, no doubt about it, I would be coming to terms with profit would I not Tweenie?
Greekman - Well at least you have defended SEO with some good points, I was looking for more of a reply from Tweenie but it seems he lacks the zeal to tackle the points I propose.
For all other SEO holders spare a thought for Tweenie who seems to be struggling with his English and ability not to contradict himself.
Symphony all the Way.

1 million shares bought at 11.55 - an odd 90K. No movement in sp but likely to have soaked up some MM stock. Level 2 pretty balanced.

Isn`t it 1.5 milion shares bought?

2 x 750,000

1,500,000 BUY ADDS 0.15P
WOW

G D POTTS
for someone who thinks SEO is finished, i don't know why you don't sell now for 8p? instead you wan't to hang on for a couple of months and in your words sell them for 5p, ?? STRANGE

Does anyone think the 2x750,000 buys? are a rollover?? A delayed trade.

Automatic
G D POTTS
for someone who thinks SEO is finished, i don't know why you don't sell now for 8p? instead you wan't to hang on for a couple of months and in your words sell them for 5p, ?? STRANGE


LOL! Good observation.
He must have a glimmer of hope yet.

Maybe he's in love with SEO and he's trying to drive down the share price so he can buy More more more!!!

Anyone here in the WI? Tell them about SEO, if you are!

They are mounting a campaign to change supermarkets thinking on packaging. Not all great for us (see 1st paragraph) but the second paragraph is.

The National Federation of Women's Institutes (NFWI) which has around 215,000 UK members, is sending out letters to supermarket store managers as part of its "say no to packaging" campaign.


They also want supermarkets to package all groceries in compostable and recyclable materials.


Full article in the DM here - a lot of radio coverage of this today.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/health/healthmain.html?in_article_id=391608&in_page_id=1774

GD Potts, you are correct, SEO is all about potential and nothing more. If your in this for the short term then you might as well cut your losses and get out now at above 5p. I for one will continue to hold even at 5p until news that either competition has beaten SEO to delivering or negotiations fall apart.
You could say this is the dreamers thread, but some dreams come true. Lets not forget my current investment is mearly the profit from my first trade in SEO at 5p selling a 15p after missing the highs and being caught on the decent!! Call this madness or just plain stupid I can understand but its not over yet.

Re Oblomov's comments on the WI campaign. Local TV news program "Midlands Today" showed a delegation of WI women visiting their local supermarket to complain about packaging. Although they would be visiting all supermarkets in their area the one on camera happened to be ASDA. After meeting the store manager the ladies said they were encouraged by what ASDA were actually in the process of doing about the matter. There's no turning back now risking the wrath of the WI.
Seriously for these ladies to focus on this matter of excessive and non degradable packaging indicates the inevitability of the changes that have to happen. SEO certainly are well placed to contribute to these changes. I thinkwe may trip over the cusp soon.........

Re the buy orders, they were originally shown as 2 off of 500K shares. Subsequently changed to 750K with time at 01:00. Trades listing via latest trade still shows the volume at 500K. So some confusion; probably matches our collective mindset about this company! Maybe the collective mindset of the management. Talking at the weekend to an apple grower. Cox's all go now via packers and they vary the criteria for rejection: not 25% red (thought Cox's didn't have it) and they are rejected; the grower is then charged 80 per whatever quantity and ends up paying the packer. Morality level is zilch. So what is all this green stuff worth except for what they can get out of it. Are poor old SEO being hung out to dry? Hope someone has a positive response.

The only positive (or negative) response we are going to get now is from SEO themselves Eric. They have had a habit in the past of releasing good news prior to not so good/downright bad, news. We are creeping inexorably towards the moment of truth, well that is what we hope we will be given, Interims to 30th April were released on 3rd June in 2003, 28th June in 2004 and 29th June last year so it is any day now I suppose. They may hold back a bit longer this year whilst they iron out problems; I really hope that we do not see a pre release slice of good news - that would worry me as they have no need to give news until release at this stage. I am confident that SEO will survive in some form or other, they have too many irons in the fire, some of which will take a while to heat up!, so GD Potts need not be too worried.....but of course, against all odds, sometimes sh*t happens!
kim

Re "Green".
What we must remember is what is important to Asda / WM is not how green something is, but how green it is perceived to be by people with bulging purses and a desire to empty them. How green the marketing men can make it appear.
If the public could be convinced that the healthy and green alternative was carrots grown at Chernobyl wrapped in Asbestos containers, Asda / WM would sell them. If green was important they would close their out of town superstores and open several thousand corner shops so we could walk to do our shopping.
The WI bear this out. They have a bee in their hand knitted bonnets about packaging. Their individual buying power is nothing but their ability to bring it to peoples attention is powerful. As groups like this put on the pressure, then retailers will move to pacify them. But make no mistake. The greenest product will not be the winner. the winner will be the cost effective solution that can be most easily sold as green.
hence my comments last week that Asda had concerns over GM & transportation. The issue may not be a real one, as Terry said, but it is real in the minds of the public and for Starpol to be a success, it is all in the presentation.
Not by SEO to Asda, but by Saatchi & Saatchi (or whoever) to Coronation Street viewers during an 30 second commercial.
So will SEO benefit? Who knows. If an alternative that is cheaper and as demonstrably green comes along then no. Regardless of whether SEO have a much greener product.
I still think that SEO are a fair way in front of the pack, though.
Alan

Alan,

Your bit re carrots and chernobyl, and re they would close supermarkets and open corner shops, hits the preverbial nail right on the head. Companies such as Asda, Tesco and the like are 99% at least only interested in money. They will only go as green as what their customers demand. That is what will make them and us hopefully via SEO rich.
Well said.
Greek

Said similar myself - post 17171