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FTSE + FTSE 250 - consider trading (FTSE)     

cynic - 20 Oct 2007 12:12

rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.

for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ

for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance

bhunt1910 - 03 Apr 2008 21:13 - 1739 of 21973

Last day of the financial year - so may well be some positioning going on too.

explosive - 03 Apr 2008 21:17 - 1740 of 21973

Wouldn't surprise me, some very good yields to be had at the moment, some stocks going ex div then up in value allowing for a small equity profit and also dividend.

Toya - 04 Apr 2008 08:31 - 1741 of 21973

Would I be right in thinking Non-Farm Payroll data due at 12:30 our time? Be ready for some significant movements around that time if so!

cynic - 04 Apr 2008 08:34 - 1742 of 21973

can't see a note on CNN yet, but may be 13:30 (hour before opening bell) now that clocks have moved

Falcothou - 04 Apr 2008 08:40 - 1743 of 21973

1230 our time according to moneyam forex thread

Toya - 04 Apr 2008 09:15 - 1744 of 21973

Probably right then, as I read the same time on Reuters. Gives me time to go to the gym this morning then

chocolat - 04 Apr 2008 09:27 - 1745 of 21973

Guys - that's 12:30 GMT.
13:30 our time.

Pay attention Falcothou ;)

Falcothou - 04 Apr 2008 10:42 - 1746 of 21973

Evidently can't tell the difference between my GMT's and G&T's !

cynic - 04 Apr 2008 10:52 - 1747 of 21973

G&T and GMT coincide at about 18:00 BST

bhunt1910 - 04 Apr 2008 11:28 - 1748 of 21973

LOL

Toya - 04 Apr 2008 12:38 - 1749 of 21973

Well, if they'd just given the EDT then we'd have known it was 13:30 here!

cynic - 04 Apr 2008 13:32 - 1750 of 21973

figures clearly not good, but seemingly not disastrous ...... Dow was showing +72 now less than half that

Strawbs - 04 Apr 2008 13:34 - 1751 of 21973

Non-Farm: -80K, unemployment 5.1%, according to CNBC (Economy Loses 80,000 Jobs, Worse Than Expected) ....

Strawbs.

cynic - 04 Apr 2008 13:38 - 1752 of 21973

according to CNN ...... The reading is expected to show a decline of 50,000 jobs on payrolls, which would mark the third straight month of job declines for the first time since the first half of 2003. The unemployment rate is also expected to rise to 5% from 4.8%, which would mark a three-year high last seen in December.

Another weak jobs report could raise the chances of a bigger rate cut by the Federal Reserve at its April 29-30 meeting.


in fact the decline was 80,000 jobs

chocolat - 04 Apr 2008 13:52 - 1753 of 21973

Big US job drop suggests US in recession


Mar Employment Report ! Consensus: !
Mar Feb ! Payrolls: -50K !
Payrolls -80K -76Kr ! !
Unemployment Rate 5.1% 4.8% ! Actual: -80K !
Hourly Earnings $17.86 $17.81r ! !
==================================================================

By Brian Blackstone
Of DOW JONES NEWSWIRES

WASHINGTON (Dow Jones)--A third-straight sharp drop in U.S. payrolls confirmed Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke's recent warning that the U.S. economy may be in recession, as the unemployment rate moved sharply higher.

The data suggest additional interest rate cuts by the Fed are likely, even though the already-aggressive response by officials doesn't leave them too much room for additional easing.

Nonfarm payrolls fell 80,000 in March, the Labor Department said Friday, its biggest decline in five years, after falling by 76,000 in both January and February. Both were revised to show even bigger losses.

Had it not been for a rise in government jobs last month, payrolls would have fallen by around 100,000.

The unemployment rate, which is calculated using a separate survey of households, jumped 0.3 percentage point to 5.1%, the highest since September 2005, when it was also 5.1%.

Average hourly earnings increased $0.05, or 0.3%, to $17.86. That was up just 3.6% from a year earlier, suggesting wage costs remain under wraps. Fed officials are counting on the slack that comes from a slowing economy to offset higher energy, food and commodity prices and the weak dollar and keep inflation in check.

Wall Street economists had expected a 50,000 decline in payrolls and a 5% unemployment rate. A closely-watched report from ADP and Macroeconomic Advisers that attempts to mirror the jobs report had signaled a slight rise. But a surprising spike in new jobless claims to over 400,000 - a level usually associated with recession - caused some economists to scale back their forecasts into the minus column.

The Fed has lowered the fed funds rate at which banks lend to each other by three percentage points since September to 2.25% to contain the effects of a credit and housing crisis on the broader economy. With the jobs data providing clear proof that the economy is buckling, the Fed will face pressure to lower rates even more.

Bernanke on Wednesday warned for the first time that "a recession is possible." Yet last month's payroll decline won't come as too much of a surprise, as Bernanke also told lawmakers Wednesday that "much necessary economic and financial adjustment has already taken place, and monetary and fiscal policies are in train that should support a return to growth in the second half of this year and next year."

Still, the jobs slump may heighten fears at the Fed of a negative "feedback loop" in which financial market strains lead to a weaker economy, which in turn leads to more financial turbulence.

The Labor Department said hiring last month in goods producing industries fell 93,000. Within this group, manufacturing firms cut 48,000 jobs. the sector has lost jobs every month for almost two years. Automobile employment fell 24,000, the Labor Department said. "This decline largely reflected the impact of a strike at an automotive parts maker," Bureau of Labor statistics Commissioner Keith Hall said in a prepared statement.

Construction employment was down by 51,000, the ninth-straight drop. Residential building bore the brunt of the decline, but nonresidential construction jobs fell as well, suggesting that the housing slump is broadening.

Service-sector employment rose just 13,000 in March and only managed 12,000 new jobs for the entire first quarter. Business and professional services companies shed 35,000 jobs, and the financial sector lost jobs for the eighth-straight month, reflecting recent credit and mortgage-market turmoil.

Temporary employment, which economists consider a leading indicator for future job trends, fell by over 21,000 last month.

Education and health services employment, in contrast, advanced by 42,000. Leisure and hospitality rose 18,000, while retail trade lost 12,400 payrolls.

The government added 18,000 jobs.

One bright spot in the report was a 0.1 percentage point rise in the average workweek to 33.8 hours. A separate index of aggregate weekly hours also rose.

bhunt1910 - 04 Apr 2008 13:59 - 1754 of 21973

Average work week of 33.8 hrs - I'll have some of that !!

cynic - 04 Apr 2008 14:07 - 1755 of 21973

though these horrid figures may well bring about a further slash in US rates, i am still surprised to see the indications being blue ...... i wonder if that will translate into reality once the market opens .... if so, then look for decisive break above about 12725 if there is to be further upward momentum, though the big hurdle is at only 12800

bhunt1910 - 04 Apr 2008 14:29 - 1756 of 21973

Cynic - I would have thought that bad figures would have driven the index down - or am I missing something.

I was contemplating a modest short.

cynic - 04 Apr 2008 14:41 - 1757 of 21973

i agree and so it has proved, though i did not do so myself ...... would not be at all surprised to see Dow falling >100 today, but not sure if i'll back that view with money

Falcothou - 04 Apr 2008 14:41 - 1758 of 21973

There is no logic with the Dow, Bhunt. It is a manic 2 headed beast of the deep!
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