cynic
- 20 Oct 2007 12:12
rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.
for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ
for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance
Shortie
- 16 Jan 2015 09:07
- 17449 of 21973
Same thing happen in 2012 when pegged against the USD. Their experienced in insider trading and would have hidden their tracks well. I doubt there will even be a ker-fuffle..
Seymour Clearly
- 16 Jan 2015 10:10
- 17450 of 21973
She couldn't possibly know Hils, could she .......? :-Q
Any banks taken a big hit?
Shortie
- 16 Jan 2015 10:21
- 17451 of 21973
Not stupid enough to play insider for amounts that stand out I think.
hilary
- 16 Jan 2015 10:23
- 17452 of 21973
Floss,
I'd made a withdrawal request from one of the biggest brokers in Australia before the SNB news yesterday - that initially got processed last night, and then cancelled at 3am pending a review of various activities which were expected to include:
• Reinstatement of positions where appropriate and possible
• Amendment of open/close prices on trades
• Assessment of client portfolios closed due to insufficient margin
• Adjusting client cash balances to reflect the actions above
So, I'd say there's a fair chance that a big bank might have got caught short, and they intend to use a bit of 'creative accounting'. :o)
hilary
- 16 Jan 2015 10:31
- 17453 of 21973
Shortie - 16 Jan 2015 10:21 - 17451 of 17452
Not stupid enough to play insider for amounts that stand out I think.
That would be because the spot currency market is regulated where and by whom exactly?
But when she profited from selling the swissie ahead of the SNB announcement of the euro peg back in 2011, it was actually her husband who was investigated for any possible wrongdoing, on account of how it was he who was the head honcho of the SNB at the time.
Seymour Clearly
- 16 Jan 2015 10:41
- 17454 of 21973
That's a bit of a bummer for you. Hope it gets sorted.
hilary
- 16 Jan 2015 10:41
- 17455 of 21973
Taken from one of many broker emails received over the last 24 hours:
"Following yesterday’s exceptional market events due to the Swiss National Bank’s abandonment of its EURCHF floor, many brokers have experienced major losses in their trading book."
This particular broker then went on to say that, through their own prudence and adherence of capital regulatory requirements, they were unaffected themselves. I did find it a bit strange that they were so well 'informed' about other brokers' circumstances though.
Seymour Clearly
- 16 Jan 2015 10:43
- 17456 of 21973
:-)
hilary
- 16 Jan 2015 10:48
- 17457 of 21973
I'm not too worried in that respect, Floss, Australian financial regulation is quite good and client funds are segregated at top-tier banks.
The point here is that there's probably going to be a fair bit of book re-writing today and over this weekend and both profits and losses may well be removed from trading books. Brokers don't want clients emptying their account balances in case they need to claw the money back.
HARRYCAT
- 16 Jan 2015 11:19
- 17458 of 21973
Casualties already! :
"(Reuters) - Retail currency broker Alpari filed for insolvency on Friday after a majority of its customers sustained losses after the Swiss National Bank's decision on Thursday abandon the three-year old cap against the euro.
"The recent move on the Swiss franc caused by the Swiss National Bank's unexpected policy reversal of capping the Swiss franc against the euro has resulted in exceptional volatility and extreme lack of liquidity," Alpari said in a statement.
"This has resulted in the majority of clients sustaining losses which has exceeded their account equity. Where a client cannot cover this loss, it is passed on to us. This has forced Alpari (UK) Limited to confirm that it has entered into insolvency."
The SNB stunned markets by scrapping its three-year-old pledge to cap the value of the franc at 1.20 per euro. That sent the franc soaring over 40 percent against the euro at one point. EURCHF=R
Another player in the retail space, London-based interdealer broker IG Group, said on Thursday many clients were able to close out their Swiss franc positions with IG more swiftly than the broker itself managed to close out its hedged positions on the currency in the forex markets. It forecast it would take a hit of around 30 million pounds."
Seymour Clearly
- 16 Jan 2015 11:43
- 17459 of 21973
Hmm. I closed my Alpari account a few months ago. Sorry for those who still have accounts.
skinny
- 16 Jan 2015 11:43
- 17460 of 21973
UPDATE 1-Asia FX brokers hit hard by Swiss franc shock, regulators probe
"The surprise move caused New Zealand foreign exchange dealer Global Brokers NZ Ltd to close due to hefty losses incurred from the volatility."
hilary
- 16 Jan 2015 11:52
- 17461 of 21973
Too many brokers and not enough players. The industry needs a good cull.
cynic
- 16 Jan 2015 13:14
- 17462 of 21973
Dow
sitting on my hands
with 17300 now looking to be broken significantly, further movement south is quite possible, somewhat contradicting ftse
cynic
- 16 Jan 2015 16:06
- 17463 of 21973
what do i know!
glad i've sat on my hands, not least because i would not have been able to give my undivided, which could have been fatal
Shortie
- 16 Jan 2015 16:23
- 17464 of 21973
The Dax looks to have set a new all time high..
Claret Dragon
- 16 Jan 2015 16:25
- 17465 of 21973
QE on its way in Europe possibly the catalyst for the Dax?
Shortie
- 16 Jan 2015 16:29
- 17466 of 21973
Definitely its being priced in yes. The whole block is up.
cynic
- 16 Jan 2015 20:59
- 17467 of 21973
wowee!
slightly foolishly went (further) long dow at 17425 hoping to make a couple of shekels before close but it's now now zipped through 17500
now wondering whether to allow greed to have its head
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prudence rules yah!
banked nice profit at 17502 but still have another one running at 17630
Claret Dragon
- 16 Jan 2015 22:14
- 17468 of 21973
Ftse 100 up on the week and the US Indices are down.
Cant recall that happening in recent memory.
Going to stick my neck out and go for more upside next week.