Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

That's certainly not as bad as buying adult films using tax payers' money though!

Ahoj,

If the present coalition had spent a little more on the infrastructure when they took power, which was the positioning of some Lib/Dems and a few tories and many outside observers, probably we would not have had a recession.

What is happening is what many call biscuit time economics without any foresight and long term planning.

Also, cutting income tax and raising VAT was crazy, the latter does little for the economy in the way it was done, while the latter depresses it.

I noted when in France over 18 months ago, that money was being ploughed into the infrastructure in an attempt to lower their unemployment and hopefully enable them to"operate" more efficiently in any upturn.

" But if we were in Euro, we wouldn't let then to get into this mess "

Did Germany prevent the mess ? No they didn't , they just made it happen in their pursuit of a FREDral European state , by letting Greece and other country's into the EU

Just heard Prof David Blanchflower , (previous member of Monetary Policy Committee) scathing summation of Osborne's and the present governments naivety and economic strategies.

Suggesting that with the present policies that recovery will be postponed until 2020 or later.

Madness!

Well said, Aldwickk,

If we were in the Euro, we would be in that much bigger mess than we are now.
Anyone who feels that anyone taken much notice of this 'Always obey the rules, whilst letting everyone tread all over you' country is living in cloud cuckoo land.
As for putting billions of pounds in infrastructure, thats all well and good as long as the multiple contracts that it would take are not those ten times over inflated contracts that are always agreed by those too ready to sign up tax payers money.

What this country needs, is action, not words.
If just 50% of what was promised by Camerons/Cleggs lot re cutting waste had been delivered, we would not be as far down the road to ruin that we are.

Cutting Government waste.
Cutting Welfare.
Cutting Immigration.
Cutting Bonuses for Failure.
Cutting Bureaucracy for businesses.
Cutting red tape.
Cutting the compensation culture.

Every one of the above has increased!

I'm sure there are many other broken promises we could all think of.

Also it is accepted by the financial and banking sector monitors that the true figure of this countries debt, is still being hidden.

If the true total of off the books debts were known, I think we would all be queueing up at boarder control to jump ship.

Problem being of course.
Where do we go.

Take a risk view :


http://vimeo.com/46360805
http://vimeo.com/46360805

Fred1new post 17745
We would not have had a recession??
I'd already become resigned to the fact your understanding of anything government or financially related was not what anyone would term normal or sensible or even above childlike levels, but it appears your memory is not as it should be either.
I suppose your blind hatred of anything Tory, libdem or coalition seriously affects your rationale and judgement.
The country was already in recession by the time the labour government had doubled the national debt to a level which will never be repaid.
I continue to feel very sorry for you, it must be such a difficult life, coping with so much anger, rather than enjoying every day. Have you considered counselling?

Chuckle,

Which country are you living in?


Check your economic facts about the UK economy over the last 3years, 10 years, 20 years and then 50 years.

Look at shrinking GDPs.

Little anger, but some sadness and a little despair at the quality of leadership and the hangers on in this coalition misgovernment and their mistaken ideological based policies.

These policies have been found wanting. To a certain degree I am insulated against many of the disastrous actions of this government, but I am less than happy of the possible effects that the policies will have on my grandchildren and their futures.

I have witness tremendous advances in the quality of life in the UK since the 1940s and I don't wish to see those advances diminished by what many think is pig headed ideological stupidity, being practised at the moment.

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I think that perhaps you are more in need of counselling than I am.

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PS,

Did you view the video or hear Will Hutton condemnation of Osborne economics?

Listen, you may learn something.

I don't think Will Hutton is a reasonable person to criticise economic policy. He just fits into your view of things.

I don't think Will Hutton is an unreasonable person to criticise economic policy. He just doesn't fit into your view of things.

Hutton is keen for us to join the Euro.

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/333141/William-Hague-tipped-to-be-Chancellor/-William-Hague-tipped-to-be-Chancellor

I know who I trust, its not you Mr Balls.

I wonder how many MP's past and present have paid tradesmen cash in hand for a discount and then still claimed the full amount on their expenses.

Recent ruling...........MPs' expenses receipts to stay secret, IPSA rules.

Also I think that if the expense claim is below £100 (may be less than that, not sure) they do not even have to prove the expense.
So much for accountability!
Hypocritical b******s!

If a government is seen to be corrupt or rotten, as ours appears to be, the morality percolates down through society.

Hiding cash in over seas is an example of this tainted behaviour. Those who go along with it are tainted by the same brush.

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Dreams,

Even the tories rejected Hague, although for many he seems to be the best of a bad
lot.

Sometimes, you can see him squirm when answering questions, or defending the policies of his mates.

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Hays,

Europe!

I would expect UK to be an integrated member of the Euro-zone within 20-25 years, unless Europe rejects us. (The euro will be the common currency.)

Dream on Fred , lol

Oh my God, you have grandchildren??

not only have you had the opportunity to brainwash your own offspring with your warped, misinformed, uneducated radicalism, you have access to even younger minds?

This is not good

The Euro has been a terrible experiment. Europe got things in the wrong order. They needed closer political and fiscal ties before a common currency. The Euro was championed by the French as they thought it would stop Germany from dominating. How wrong they were.

Are you still taking the pills Fred, perhaps you need some stronger ones. lol