Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Good old Prescott!

Reminds me of the tale of the John Prescott whose car has crashed into a lamp-post. A helpful passer-by calls the ambulance, and goes over to

talk to the poor Deputy Labour Leader trapped behind the steering wheel.

"Where are you bleeding from?" He asks. "I'm from bleeding Hull, ain't I

The first time i heard that joke it was a Essex girl in the car and he said " were yer bleeding from love " and she said " Romford , were are you from "

If you think Slasher Osborne and Wavy Davy and their crazy economics U-turn policies are going to improve the UK economy situation of the UK, you are mistaken.

Cuckoos comes to mind.

I saw better qualified spivs pushing wheel barrows in Oxford Street as a kid than the pair hays and some of you seem to be is supporting.

I suppose it is the PR which attracts.

As Oakeshott inferred, they both appear to be on "work experience" and learning nothing.

I am just wondering whether "friends" of the rating agencies have short term "longs" and waiting to dump them back on the market.


The way to dig the UK economy out of the deeper hole they are digging is not by increasing it "borrowing" as Osborne is doing, but increasing GDP to cover those debts initially and then repay debt.

What Slasher is attempting to do for political reasons, is to cover up a failing policy which will later need a more obvious devaluation of sterling to get him out of his hole.

In normal times would you buy a company whose policies are to cut output, without any real plans on how they can provide later for expansion.

Squeezing "wages" or and seeing wages simply as "costs", will not work in the way that some expect.

I think some of the tory leadership and some of their supporters are naive and their thinking suggest that they believe themselves to be living in the past.

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Have a look at past and present austerity programmes on the economies of other countries during periods of recession.

Also, have a close look at QE, devaluation, fiscal stimulus etc, . They are just simply different points on a circle of a developing economy.

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Cameron and Slasher are like blind men walking without their dogs.

Fred1new. Your grasp of economics is quite amazing in its child like simplicity and total misunderstanding of the principles involved, but at least you provide entertainment for those who giggle at stupidity. Personally, I don't find it funny, merely pathetic and sad, I don't really understand why you feel you must prove that stupidity day after day.

I'm sure Moody's will downgrade the UK's AAA rating if the GDP continues to remain in negative territory, yeah right. Very funny.

Tell me, why do you find it so necessary to invent puerile nick names for those you dislike (and in one case, just downright nasty)? Does it make you feel superior, better or is it a response to a lifetime of self failure?

Well said chuckles. Also I note Fred that you keep stating what DC/ government are
doing wrong. Lets have your views how you would run the country. The Labour party are the same as you, keep picking up on the government and not having any real tested answers themselves.

Oh Shucks,

Actually, quite a few people thought I was reasonably successful at many things. Sometimes I couldn't understand why.

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Dreams.

Suggest you read Fiscal Stimulus, Fiscal inflation or Fiscal Fallacies by J Cochrane.
May support your political leaning.

Should take about 20mins, but it has its own fallacies,

Also, the Wavy Davy and Slasher are thought by many to be in "charge" of the country and should be showing good governance. Many in the coalition and their own party don't think they are doing so.


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As far as what I would do, read back.

Also, remember the advice "if you are doing something and its not working, try something different".
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Fred, one thing for sure I am balanced.

Cannot understand as you make it sound so easy to put the country on the right path that you are not the PM.lol

There are no quick fixes to economic mailase. The Labour government inherited a strong stable economy and then proceeded to dismantle it in its entirety. The challenge for the coalition is to repair that damage within their term of parliament, a tough ask, but time will tell if their policies will work. My sense is that we've just had the last quarter of negative GDP, the rest of the year will see a return to growth.

Dreams.

“Fred, one thing for sure I am balanced.”

Many a mad man has believed the same.

8-)

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Shucks,

Tell me, why do you find it so necessary to invent puerile nick names for those you dislike (and in one case, just downright nasty)?


Mockery and satire has probably been part of the the UK history since its infancy.

Also, it has been part of this thread and others since early on. For some it seen more often than not as humorous, but it also sometimes points succinctly to characteristics of those or what it refers to.

If you kept your remarks to the argument, or points raised rather than personalising them, my responses to you would probably be in the same vein.

However, when you make remarks such as:-

“Like all radicals you marginalise yourself to a point where you become a figure of fun, albeit I see only sadness not humour. I guess you were bullied at school?”
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Or.

“chuckles - 26 Jul 2012 13:35 - 17761 of 17815

Oh my God, you have grandchildren??

not only have you had the opportunity to brainwash your own offspring with your warped, misinformed, uneducated radicalism, you have access to even younger minds?

This is not good
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You can expect some of my responses to you to have the same degree of virulence.

As far as one “nickname” is concerned, it was again made in response to personal remarks and innuendoes made against me and others.

If you wish to check, read back. But personally I wouldn’t waste my own time doing so.

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Your posting chuckles - 17815

“There are no quick fixes to economic mailase.”

I agree, but before the previous election in order to denigrate, or undermine the previous government, denial that all the UK’s economic “chaos” was unrelated to that of the world wide “chaos in the financial markets”, “economies” and “factors” outside the direct control of that government, was irresponsible.

At the moment, instead of repeating the mantra of it was all due to “labour failures”, the coalition’s mantra seems to be is that it is down to Europe to get their house in order, while digging a bigger and bigger hole for the UK.

Also¸ under the coalition government which has been in power for August 2012, i.e. nearly 2years. The UK’s GDP has gone done, we are in recession, borrowing is up and National Debt is going up.

I think it is reasonable to critical of this government’s present policies.

The economic problems are difficult to overcome, but the processes are circular and “stimuli” or “interferences” are supposed to be helpful. The present governments timing seem to be out of sync with what is necessary.


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/george-osborne-warned-uk-will-miss-key-debt-targets-7960105.html

"The Chancellor will miss one of his key fiscal targets, the International Monetary Fund warned yesterday, prompting calls for the Government to adopt a Plan B on the economy.
In June 2010 , George Osborne gave himself a "fiscal mandate" to ensure that national debt as a share of GDP is falling by 2015-16. But in its annual report on the health of the UK economy, the IMF said Britain's national debt will still be rising by then.
Embarrassingly for Mr Osborne, the IMF said that government debt will peak at 79.7 per cent of GDP in 2015-16, and will not start to fall until 2016-17.
"Under [our] staff's weaker medium-term growth projections, the net debt target is expected to be met one year late," it said.
If the IMF's forecast is correct, Mr Osborne is facing a very difficult choice. He can either scrap the national debt target, which would be a political embarrassment, or he can impose greater cuts and tax rises in an attempt to get back on track. The latter would almost certainly further weaken an economy suffering its second recession in three years."

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Another rambling post

Seeing this huge pile of rubbish reminds me of your posts Fred. :-))

..Oxford University has rewritten the laws governing its strict academic dress code following concerns that they were unfair towards transgender students.

Under the new regulations, students taking exams or attending formal occasions will no longer have to wear ceremonial clothing that is specific to their gender.

It will mean men will be able to sit tests in skirts and stockings and women will have the option of wearing suits and bow ties.

The new laws, which will come into force next week, comes after a motion put forward the university's Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Trans and Queer society (LGBTQ Soc) was passed by the student union.

Jess Pumphrey, LGBTQ Soc's executive officer, said the change will make a number of students' exam experience significantly less stressful.

She told The Oxford Student newspaper: "In future there will be no need for transgender students to cross-dress to avoid being confronted by invigilators or disciplined during their exam."

Under the old laws on academic clothing - known as subfusc - male students were required to wear a dark suit and socks, black shoes, a white bow tie and a plain white shirt and collar under their black gowns.

Female students had to wear a dark skirt or trousers, a white blouse, black stockings and shoes and a black ribbon tied in a bow at the neck.

If a transgender student wanted to wear subfusc of the opposite sex they had to seek special dispensation from university proctors, who had the power to punish those who breached the rules.

An Oxford University spokesman said: "The regulations have been amended to remove any reference to gender, in response to concerns raised by Oxford University Student Union that the existing regulations did not serve the interests of transgender students."

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Fred1new, you are what you are, but the bit you can change is to accept there can be no excuse for calling someone Aids, no matter the provocation. But then in the hypocritical world you live there you seem to be able to find an excuse for everything you say or do. Incidentally, I have yet to read any satire in your posts, just mockery, which on its own, I have to tell you is not humorous.

Dream on,

The image would seem to be more representative of you and and your thought processes, which at times seem to me, to be a little scrambled.

On the other hands the image could be representative of the UK in 12 months time.

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Hays,

You are at you coherent best!

Perhaps, you don't like the message, or more probably, it is just that you wish to demonstrate a blind adherence to your party's line.

(If only the PR machine could come up with a suitable one.)

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Post 17819

That will cause more even more confusion, when you take your partners home to your "mum".

Chucks,

Once again, I suggest you read the whole thread, before making an uninformed judgement.

If having done so, you hold the same opinion that is your prerogative.

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Freda,

I don't need to, inexcusable is just plain old inexcusable.

There are none so blind as those who do not wish to see.

It seems to me that you also may need Aid.

Fred1new - 29 Jul 2012 17:26 - 17824 of 17825

There are none so blind as those who do not wish to see.

It seems to me that you also may need Aid.

You're a nasty piece of work Fred1new. The use of a capitalised A in your Aid is tantamount to wishing Aids on me, dropping the s isn't much in the way of camouflage. Sick, very, very sick but that's your personality and something you have to live with. I feel utterly sorry for your poor family.

Why don't you post evidence to excuse your behaviour? Oh, there isn't any evidence, silly me.

Tut, Tut!

You make your own associations based on you own circumstances and interpretations.