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Bags the one with the duck.

Sold out today at a 5-figure () loss. The worst day of my investing life. So be it. I was steered into this co., I was given the Intel., I funded it way above my normal amount, I listened, I read, I researched (although not as deeply as I really should have done) and the final decisions as to whether to buy or sell some or all, over the past 12 months or so, always rested with ME. We were all mislead & lied to. But that's life. **it happens. Regardless, in the end, it was MY responsibilty. I will stop there.

I WISH EVERY OTHER STANELCO SHAREHOLDER EVERY SUCCESS FOR 2006 AND BEYOND. I will monitor from time to time with interest especially as now that yours truly is OUT, the sp is bound to rocket! Expect a Greenseal announcement any day soon, I'm sure!

But, for me, that's it.

GOOD LUCK TO ALL...

Thanks for the good wishes, ma.
Taking the loss on the chin is probably a braver decision than those of us trying to ride it out.
Alan

Sorry to hear that, Markus. As Alan says, a brave decision. For those left in, I can remember when my original holding, bought at 6p, dropped to 3.6p - I came close to making the same decision as Markus, but held. The true value of a share is what you sell it for. Thats why I'm ignoring the SP at the moment - I'm confident that even if the sales of Greenseal dont hit the dizzy heights we were all predicting a year ago, that there will be SOME sales and the SP can only rise.

Bye markusantonius good luck in your future investments.

oblomov
Im the same as you Oblo Ive got my head well and truly stuck in the sand on this one.

Bad luck Markus, I hope you will be able to recoup your losses on this one some day.
kim

Yes,Markus.

Nice to see someone who has lost out not blaming everyone else.
Obviously only time will tell if you made the right decision. Whatever happens to the sp, it was a brave decision, and those of us still in will perhaps if it totally dives, wish we had your bottle. Sometimes it's just as gutsy to sell at a lost than to stay in. Like the rest, wishing your other investments don't loose out.
Good luck.

Who'd sell 6 shares? 30p raised and 7 + dealing costs!

It was an autotrade. The orderbook works on matched bargains. A SELL trade may have been put on at say 50,000. As matched trades come in matching at the price then the volume reduces until it is used up. The final part was probably 6 shares. It is also not always possible to tell if AT trades are buys or sells anyway. A trade is just put in the order book. You can buy at the SELL price or the opposite. It is the way that most trades are done in the US for in stance. The 'O' trades are usually MM trades, the rest being almost all order book.

It is all a lot clearer if you have Level 2.

I had wondered what was going on with the trades on this stock as on some days there are very few AT trades and the price is reasonably stable. On other days, there is a significant percentage of AT's and the price is quite volatile, generally downwards. It looks as though there could be a move to have this stock AT driven.

Could someone shed any light on what dictates and AT or MM trade?

AT trades are as Haystack says, automated trades. A trade goes in at a set price (AT trades known as SETS) either buy or sell into the order book. When an equal Sets price meets it, it is auto buy or sell. So if you want to sell at 1 and put it onto Sets, and I want to buy at 1 when my order matches yours the deal is done.
MM's are the market makers who also set prices but can accept less for a buy, more for a sell or at that price.
Of course MM's can put a price on the Sets if they receive an order from clients (brokers) at that price.
Someone may explain better, but thats basically it.
If you go onto trades section on Moneyam, and go into help, it explains very well.

The subject of when trades are submitted as 'O' or 'AT' is probably too wide to be covered here completely. Institutions that have auto-trading or robot (bot) trading systems use 'AT' trades to trickle trades into the system without moving the price too much. That is one use. Day and short term traders with access to trading platforms can enter trades directly on to the order book and remove them. There are plenty of people like that posting here on the traders BB. MM trades are generally private investors (generally - because even insitiutions use MMs). There are many other reasons for the use of the two systems.

Thanks for explaining that, HS and GM.

Why oh why did you listen to the rampers. I tried to help you

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Thanks Greekman, I already knew the distinction between the differing types of trades, it was purely the mechanism by which they become AT or O to which Haystack has quite succinctly responded, so thanks too.

I don't think it was an objective SEO thread, not that it matters. Show me an unbiased person and I will show you someone who has no opinions.

I prefer to read biased opinions as long as I can see where their bias lies.

Personally, I think SEO has much further to fall and is never going to be successful.

I can't see food companies switching over to SEO packaging as they supply many supermarkets and it makes their supply methods fragmented. It was indicated above that the packaging film might be microwave suitable, but not suitable for ovens. That's a killer right away as prepacked meals need to be suitable for cooking both ways.

Cheers Garyble,
I have a few books on the stock market. Some of it is obvious, some not too bad to understand, and a large bit way over my head. I find the advise on these threads re the workings of the system often more helpful.
I now know about ten times as much as I did prior to starting to wade through said books. I know a bit now, whereas before as Manuel (Fawlty Towers) would say " I know nothing". A bit like SEO investor relations info line. I wonder if Manuel now works there. PR manager perhaps.