bosley
- 20 Feb 2004 09:34
greekman
- 21 Jul 2006 16:07
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Oblomov,
Cheers re the oven/microwave answer.
oblomov
- 21 Jul 2006 17:33
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greekman,
Much as I hate to say it, its thanks to PM1!
oblomov
- 21 Jul 2006 17:35
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Well, another week over, another few grand down! At least the SP cant go down over the next two days. Good weekend all.
explosive
- 21 Jul 2006 19:22
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Alan, loved the logic behing the microwave analysis.... One thing I do know is that the microwave oven was originaly developed by the military. However being unable to control the disburtion of the waves was a scrapped weapon idea... Well so we were told. The principle is that energy reacts with molecules e.g. water and makes them vibrate, this vibration creates heat and hence warms your food. In theory anything wet and packaged should kind of seam itself and cook. However holes will be needed to prevent the buildup of steam causing the packaging to explode. A very simple way to test this theory is to try microwaving something very dry for a minute and feel how hot it is, then make the same item damp and microwave again for a minute. You should find that the damp item is far hotter after a minute compared with the same item dry..... Nows theres something utterly sad for the weekend should you have nothing better to do!!
garyble
- 21 Jul 2006 20:27
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Jimward,
By that astounding piece of logic no readymeal could ever be cooked!
Could it be that the combination of microwave frequency, intensity and tooling pressure all combine to effect the necessary seal.
hewittalan6
- 22 Jul 2006 09:19
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My Understanding of thehistory of the microwave is that the military beveloped huge magnatrons that were used to emit radio waves as part of the development of Radar.
A company was employed to build these with perfect timing (a few months before the war ended). They were left with huge magnatrons that were now not needed by the military and held a meeting very close to one, while they discussed what, exactly, they could use the technology for, that had a more commercial basis.
A senior engineer was present and he discovered that a bar of chocolate in his pocket had melted, despite the factory being quite cold, and he realised the potential for heating things up.
It was of course years before it was made safe enough and controllable enough for a kitchen, but the size still meant that they were huge (room sized) and expensive to the point where only very large restaraunts and hotels had any interest.
Can't remember where I read it, but there you go.
Sad memory I got here.
Alan
hewittalan6
- 22 Jul 2006 09:29
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BTW. If you think that engineer was a rather unfortunate chap, being bombarded with microwaves AND having his lunch melt in his pocket, I offer you an American called Thomas Midgely Jr. He is my nomination for worlds worst ever inventor.
He realised car engines had a problem with engine knock and was the man who invented petrol with added ethynol to stop it. It worked and become the world standard. He built a huge business devoted to producing ethynol for petrol around the globe. We call it leaded petrol.
With his millions he set out to work out how to prevent the gas leaks from refrigiration equipment that was poisoning people and decided instead to replace the gas used with one of his own devising. He came up with a wonder gas called Chloro -flouro carbons and set about filling the world with them. CFC's to you and me.
Having contrived to destroy a planet with just two inventions he contracted polio and set about inventing a winch and pulley system to raise himself and turn himself around in his sickbed, rather than disturb his nurse.
He had the mechanism fitted and the first time he used it on his own, he got caught up in the ropes and strangled himself, dead.
Ladies and gentlemen, I offer you, Thomas Midgely Jr.
Alan
aldwickk
- 22 Jul 2006 15:44
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At last you lot have run out of things to say about SEO, not even a loose link in sight .
hewittalan6
- 22 Jul 2006 18:18
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Plenty to say about SEO.
Just some of us have slightly broader horizons and enjoy the opportunity to discuss with other educated people, instead of communicating with one topic wonders and snide one-line deliverers.
aldwickk
- 22 Jul 2006 20:25
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You left out un in front of educated, anybody educated in investing in the stockmarket would have sold out months ago [ stop loses, cut your loses and let your profits run ect: ] all this about i am in this for the long term is just an excuse for making a bad investment move, take a look around you there are much more better investments to get back some of your loses and you can still come back to SEO when they start getting some good cash flow going. my choice would be AFR, GFM and ZOX.
oblomov
- 22 Jul 2006 22:41
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superrod
- 23 Jul 2006 02:38
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a few interesting posts today.
hewittalan6
i am suprised at your nomination for the worlds worst inventor. it seems to me that he was extremely good.......(and unfortunate). its what the poulation of the planet do with an invention that makes it bad.
what about TNT, atomic energy, nuclear fusion etc?
i build refrigerated vans ( wrt to your CFC comment)
the actual fridge fitter who charges the unit with CFCs also has a machine to reclaim CFCs from faulty units. they invariably choose to allow this straight into the atmosphere cos they are paid by the hour.
the thing that worries me is that i understand the ozone layer is only a max of 3cm thick.
you can even be poisoned by water if you drink enough
oblomov
- 23 Jul 2006 08:06
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Talking of inventions, my favourite inventor (and also possibly a contender for the title of the worlds worst ever inventor) was a man called Arthur Pedrick. I used to see him regularly doing his research in the Patent Office when I worked there some 30-35 years ago and he looked the typical mad professor/inventor.
My favourite of his genius inventions was his
'IMPROVEMENTS IN THE IRRIGATION OF "DESERTS" BY SNOW PIPED FROM POLAR REGIONS FOR THE PURPOSE OF MINIMISING THE IMPENDING WORLD FAMINE'
Which was basically a method of rolling gigantic snowballs from the antarctic to the dessert! Details here - be sure to read the 'claims' and look at the drawings!
http://v3.espacenet.com/textdes?DB=EPODOC&IDX=GB1203136&F=0&QPN=GB1203136
A close second favourite is his
'PHOTON PUSH-PULL RADIATION DETECTOR FOR USE IN CHROMATICALLY SELECTIVE CAT FLAP CONTROL AND 1000 MEGATON EARTH-ORBITAL PEACE-KEEPING BOMB'
http://v3.espacenet.com/textdoc?DB=EPODOC&IDX=GB1426698&F=0
This dual purpose invention not only saved man from destroying itself in a nuclear war, but would also distinguish between a black cat and a ginger cat , opening the cat flap only for the cat of your choice! Again, read the claims and look at the great drawings under the original document.
Some of this great mans other inventions:-
'Swinging or suspended multidecked cities'
http://v3.espacenet.com/textdoc?DB=EPODOC&IDX=GB1203166&F=0
His
'Hot air bomb' which could be dropped from the air to melt a sea-passage through the Polar ice caps! No mention of what effects the rising sea levels would have (floodwise) on the rest of the world!
http://v3.espacenet.com/textdoc?DB=EPODOC&IDX=GB1175916&F=0
His
'LARGE FLAT BASED LOW FLYING AIRCRAFT USING FASCES OR BUNDLES OF BODIES OF EXISTING LARGE AIRCRAFT SUCH AS THE BOEING' 747
Which basically took several jumbo jets and tied them together to form one large aircraft:-
http://v3.espacenet.com/textdoc?DB=EPODOC&IDX=GB1439086&F=0
oblomov
- 23 Jul 2006 08:25
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p.s.
Just found a website with pages dedicated to Arthur with some of his other notable inventions, such as the 'Horse powered car'!
http://www.patent.freeserve.co.uk/pedrick.html
hewittalan6
- 23 Jul 2006 09:03
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Oblo /Sr,
I just find it increadible that arguably the worlds two most environmentally devastating ideas of the last century came from the same guy!!
Its not that the inventions were useless, quite the opposite, and they made him millions. It is the lasting impact of imminent disaster that astounds me. both CFC's and Lead are going to be kicking around and damaging our planet long after you and i have shuffled off this mortal coil. To then top it with inventing something to end your own life, while not being unique, is completely bizzare.
I'm just working on my own invention right now.
Its a machine that you can wear that has several functions. It has a set of blinkers that prevent any view other than your own about the function or purpose of investing, a freeze spray to shrink your genetalia to the size of peanuts so you'll never have balls big enough to admit to any kind of error and an anti personnel spray to ensure you will remain billy no mates.
Reading posts over the last few days, I think I've even found a market for it as well!!
I will be sending it Starpol wrapped and packaged in Frogpack, (just to make it relevant to this thread) so nobody complains it should not be discussed on here.
Alan
hewittalan6
- 23 Jul 2006 12:13
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You could probably find many similar charts throughout the sector, and indeed AIM and FTSE in general. This is not a defence of the performance and delivery, far from it, but the general market conditions / fears / attitude to smaller stocks has definitely magnified the fall.
Well pointed out, Bos.
Alan
PapalPower
- 23 Jul 2006 16:06
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Talking of AIM charts, did you know the AIM is presently at the same value it was in 1996 ! The FTSE-100 is up 60% in 10 years, the AIM is level with no gain.
Take a comparison of 10 year FTSE 100 and 10 year AIM :

The AIM market tends to move up sharply as the FTSE-100 becomes fully valued, with the FTSE-100 possibly reaching a level off period, it could be the time for the AIM market to get some serious funds put in, before a market crash in a couple of years time..........could be some serious money to be made in the coming 2 or 3 years......who knows.