cynic
- 20 Oct 2007 12:12
rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.
for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ
for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance
spitfire43
- 06 Apr 2008 22:10
- 1796 of 21973
Spitfire prediction after after 5 or 6 glasses of J P Chenet, DOW will struggle to breach 12700, FTSE will rise short term Monday to 6050, at which point I will short with very long stop all the way down to 5343. Tuesday FTSE wiil fall to 5743, then Wednesday continue down to 5643, at which time Man Utd will proceed to semi finals of champions league.
I may have changed my mind in the morning, maybe I wont post this after all, where's the cancel button, post damn too late.
Toya
- 07 Apr 2008 07:46
- 1797 of 21973
Thanks for all your pearls of wisdom! Can't decide which way to go so will sit tight for a while
cynic
- 07 Apr 2008 07:57
- 1798 of 21973
difficult innit!
bhunt1910
- 07 Apr 2008 08:10
- 1799 of 21973
With start of new tax year - I think FTSE will climb some more - but my analysis has beed so far off the mark over the past week that I will just watch you experts for a while before making up my mind/
Falcothou
- 07 Apr 2008 08:37
- 1800 of 21973
If or when it tanks they'll be calling it a fool's rally. Rio quite close to resistance now which makes a short a consideration as it it made a long a consideration at 48 support, wish I had then!
ptholden
- 07 Apr 2008 09:00
- 1801 of 21973
Pity I didn't follow my own thoughts and take a long position on the DOW last night. Hindsight is a wonderful thing :)
spitfire43
- 07 Apr 2008 09:56
- 1802 of 21973
FTSE has just spiked to 6000 level, interesting to see DOW futures at 12700. So we could see some short term strength, I will content myself with a little scalping at 6000+ level to the downside.
bhunt1910
- 07 Apr 2008 10:02
- 1803 of 21973
spitfire - can you explain scalping please ?
ptholden
- 07 Apr 2008 10:18
- 1804 of 21973
Rather than taking a longer term view of the Index spitfire is trading very short moves for a few pts at a time, perhaps even just one, ie, scalping.
bhunt1910
- 07 Apr 2008 10:30
- 1805 of 21973
thanks PT.
I use BSL and they charge a fixed amount on index cfds of 12.50. So I would need to cover 25 plus 4 points for the spread. Am I paying through the nose? or do you use a big bet ie 50 per point - to reduce the overhead of the commision charges.
I am only at the 5 per point stage - so obviously I need a bigger movement to cover costs and spread to make a profita
ptholden
- 07 Apr 2008 10:38
- 1806 of 21973
I wouldn't consider scalping using CFDs, spreadbets only with no commission charges. Size of the bet is individual preference depenadnt on risk appetite. Personally I think 50 is quite a sizeable bet and one that could cause significant damage to one's pot in pretty short order!
bhunt1910
- 07 Apr 2008 10:53
- 1807 of 21973
Ah - thanks. Am only using CFD's - have not really got my head round SB's - perhaps thats my problem - and why my profits dissolve with the commission charges.
spitfire43
- 07 Apr 2008 11:02
- 1808 of 21973
I started trying to use CFD for index reading, but changed to SB's which have no commission, only the spread which is only 2 points on FTSE.
I only scalp using 3 points, and only on days where market seems undecided about positive direction. A bit like myself today, I just can't make up my mind on when to jump in.
spitfire43
- 07 Apr 2008 11:12
- 1809 of 21973
Very frustrating, problem with scalping you have to watch the screens the whole time, I missed first chance at 6000 to short, but I'm sure FTSE will hit 6000 again.
cynic
- 07 Apr 2008 11:26
- 1810 of 21973
if in doubt, do nowt ...... if anything, would be inclined to short
maggiebt4
- 07 Apr 2008 11:29
- 1811 of 21973
Spitfire Is that Ftse daily? b'cos Ftse april with IG spread is 6 + extra 3. Can you roll over a daily bet ? knowing my luck if I short it I'll go up.
cynic
- 07 Apr 2008 11:43
- 1812 of 21973
just for info, i think IG CFDs charge $10 in each direction per $2 mini-Dow contract, and FTSE must be similarly small - i.e. 5 in each direction per 2 mini-FTSE contract
FTSE spread during market hours is 2 points or 4 outside
I think Dow is be 4 or 6 outside
bhunt1910
- 07 Apr 2008 12:16
- 1813 of 21973
Thanks for the info guys
Will look at SB's
spitfire43
- 07 Apr 2008 13:45
- 1814 of 21973
Hi Maggie, yes the 2 points was for a daily rolling bet, you can roll it over to next day for a small charge. Sometimes if you want to take a longer position, maybe over a week or longer it can pay to use a CFD contract.
maggiebt4
- 07 Apr 2008 13:48
- 1815 of 21973
Thanks Spitfire might take a dabble but not today.