cynic
- 20 Oct 2007 12:12
rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.
for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ
for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance
cynic
- 07 Apr 2008 07:57
- 1798 of 21973
difficult innit!
bhunt1910
- 07 Apr 2008 08:10
- 1799 of 21973
With start of new tax year - I think FTSE will climb some more - but my analysis has beed so far off the mark over the past week that I will just watch you experts for a while before making up my mind/
Falcothou
- 07 Apr 2008 08:37
- 1800 of 21973
If or when it tanks they'll be calling it a fool's rally. Rio quite close to resistance now which makes a short a consideration as it it made a long a consideration at 48 support, wish I had then!
ptholden
- 07 Apr 2008 09:00
- 1801 of 21973
Pity I didn't follow my own thoughts and take a long position on the DOW last night. Hindsight is a wonderful thing :)
spitfire43
- 07 Apr 2008 09:56
- 1802 of 21973
FTSE has just spiked to 6000 level, interesting to see DOW futures at 12700. So we could see some short term strength, I will content myself with a little scalping at 6000+ level to the downside.
bhunt1910
- 07 Apr 2008 10:02
- 1803 of 21973
spitfire - can you explain scalping please ?
ptholden
- 07 Apr 2008 10:18
- 1804 of 21973
Rather than taking a longer term view of the Index spitfire is trading very short moves for a few pts at a time, perhaps even just one, ie, scalping.
bhunt1910
- 07 Apr 2008 10:30
- 1805 of 21973
thanks PT.
I use BSL and they charge a fixed amount on index cfds of 12.50. So I would need to cover 25 plus 4 points for the spread. Am I paying through the nose? or do you use a big bet ie 50 per point - to reduce the overhead of the commision charges.
I am only at the 5 per point stage - so obviously I need a bigger movement to cover costs and spread to make a profita
ptholden
- 07 Apr 2008 10:38
- 1806 of 21973
I wouldn't consider scalping using CFDs, spreadbets only with no commission charges. Size of the bet is individual preference depenadnt on risk appetite. Personally I think 50 is quite a sizeable bet and one that could cause significant damage to one's pot in pretty short order!
bhunt1910
- 07 Apr 2008 10:53
- 1807 of 21973
Ah - thanks. Am only using CFD's - have not really got my head round SB's - perhaps thats my problem - and why my profits dissolve with the commission charges.
spitfire43
- 07 Apr 2008 11:02
- 1808 of 21973
I started trying to use CFD for index reading, but changed to SB's which have no commission, only the spread which is only 2 points on FTSE.
I only scalp using 3 points, and only on days where market seems undecided about positive direction. A bit like myself today, I just can't make up my mind on when to jump in.
spitfire43
- 07 Apr 2008 11:12
- 1809 of 21973
Very frustrating, problem with scalping you have to watch the screens the whole time, I missed first chance at 6000 to short, but I'm sure FTSE will hit 6000 again.
cynic
- 07 Apr 2008 11:26
- 1810 of 21973
if in doubt, do nowt ...... if anything, would be inclined to short
maggiebt4
- 07 Apr 2008 11:29
- 1811 of 21973
Spitfire Is that Ftse daily? b'cos Ftse april with IG spread is 6 + extra 3. Can you roll over a daily bet ? knowing my luck if I short it I'll go up.
cynic
- 07 Apr 2008 11:43
- 1812 of 21973
just for info, i think IG CFDs charge $10 in each direction per $2 mini-Dow contract, and FTSE must be similarly small - i.e. 5 in each direction per 2 mini-FTSE contract
FTSE spread during market hours is 2 points or 4 outside
I think Dow is be 4 or 6 outside
bhunt1910
- 07 Apr 2008 12:16
- 1813 of 21973
Thanks for the info guys
Will look at SB's
spitfire43
- 07 Apr 2008 13:45
- 1814 of 21973
Hi Maggie, yes the 2 points was for a daily rolling bet, you can roll it over to next day for a small charge. Sometimes if you want to take a longer position, maybe over a week or longer it can pay to use a CFD contract.
maggiebt4
- 07 Apr 2008 13:48
- 1815 of 21973
Thanks Spitfire might take a dabble but not today.
bhunt1910
- 07 Apr 2008 15:12
- 1816 of 21973
one of those funny days again with the dow dropping since the open and the Ftse holding - even pushing up ??
cynic
- 07 Apr 2008 16:35
- 1817 of 21973
Dow remains decidedly undecided ...... am glad i have taken no position at all, but still remain inclined to short, but shall wait and watch