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Common Sense Party     

Marc3254 - 26 Jul 2006 11:05

It sadden 's me to see our great nation split, bickering and jockying for postition on the world stage, becuase were seen as a pawn of Armerica. We have a leadership to scared to lead, laws that are out of date and allow us as a nation to be ridiculed and our systems abused by anyone.
Enough! Take back our country, take back our laws and give the people back the pride that is sadly lacking from todays youth.

'The Common Sense Party' has arrived - but we need to build a manefesto. You choose the laws you want scrapped, ammended or introduced. It can be any law.
Here are a few just to wet your appitite.

1. Reintroduction of the death penalty for all Deliberate murders, drug dealers, rapists and child molestors. Death to be carried out within 48 hrs of sentencing.

2. CLose all borders and allow immigration based the country needing the work skills offered by the claimant.

3. London Underground forced to install Aircon in all tubes and stations

4. NHS to be scrapped - Abulance service will remain to give life saving treatment and move casualty to the nearest hospital.

5. Tax on fags and booze scrapped.

Well its your party - post your idea and be part of somthing!

soul traders - 26 Jul 2006 13:07 - 18 of 34

Al, you have a good point. Political correctness is responsible for so much social paralysis. If people can actually be brought together to hear one another's views - and here's the rub - to actually listen rather than start threatening violence every time they hear a contrary opinion, then just maybe there's a chance of getting them to work together.

Haystack - 26 Jul 2006 13:21 - 19 of 34

soul traders
I have also found that Germany is very PC about humour and comments that people may make. I have a gay friend in Frankfurt who lives in the Alta Gasse (not sure of spelling) area. He took me to a a lot of gay club one night. The music was very good and it was quite enjoyable (especially after he told his friends I was straight).

At about 3:00 am we were standing outside one of the clubs with around 50 or more people. A Mercedes sports car pulled up across the road and the driver shouted something. He quickly drove off and there was silence for quite a while. The club goers looked quite shocked. I asked what he had said that was so shocking. He replied that the driver had shouted "you should all be put in concentration camps". Apparantly this sort of thing is never said.

Marc3254 - 26 Jul 2006 13:23 - 20 of 34

Thank you both - the point that got me to writing this thread in the first place. There are so many laws, which of the years have stiffled us, and are preventing us as a country fully ingrigating.
Laws orinally designed to help people are now having the reverse effect.

hewittalan6 - 26 Jul 2006 13:49 - 21 of 34

The real problem is that people have been hoodwinked into believing that anything that offends them should not be allowed. This has been the prime motivator behind racism, agism, homophobism and anti smoking laws. It is about time that our childish race grew up and realised that if you and your property are not harmed, lost or put in danger by something, then the fact that you are offended is legally irrelevant.
i am offended by many things. I am inconvenienced by many more, but to call for a ban on them all is ridiculous. Surely it is time to return the law to its basis of the Harm to others principle. To those who complain that a particular word, phrase or action hurts their feelings I deliver one message. Tough. Grow up. You left the nursery a long time ago.
Alan

bosley - 26 Jul 2006 14:09 - 22 of 34

alan,
"The Muslim population feels sidelined and not integrated. "

i disagree. in my experience the muslim population doesn't want to integrate, (unless it suits their particular purpose), and prefers to stay marginalised. i'm not having a go at muslims. this is just the standard way people behave when there are a large number of them in a foreign country. as an example, look at parts of spain where there are large english communities. how many speak spanish, or try to fit in with spanish culture? from what i have seen all these people are doing in spain is trying to recreate england. in a strange land people always go to what they know.
i appreciate all of the above is a massive generalisation and that there are exceptions, but, i'm only saying what i've seen and experienced.

hewittalan6 - 26 Jul 2006 14:26 - 23 of 34

Understand your post, bos. It may be a generation thing. Younger Muslims wanting to live a western life, while older Muslims all but ban it.
Dunno. But while ever the sort of posts we are writing on here are having to pussyfoot around and be very careful with our language, we will never be able to discuss it in the honest and open way that may lead to a solution.
instead we will ahve to continue with failed social services type experiments, one after another, while the situation only gets worse.
IMO anyway.
Alan

Edit. I would like to say that the Muslims of this area do not want to integrate but that sort of thing gets you branded as a racist!! You are generalising an entire community and saying, in a roundabout way, that they should change to fit in with the local population. that kind of makes my point.
Alan

Marc3254 - 26 Jul 2006 15:09 - 24 of 34

if you move to another country, reguardless of who you are or where you move you should accept the ways of that country and try to fit in. if you dont like it or agree then move back to where you come from.
That's not being racist, its plain common sense.

Stan - 26 Jul 2006 15:17 - 25 of 34

I hardly new what the word Anthropology meant up until 4 months ago, then i signed up for a an 8 week short course (as part my main course). It demonstrated to me a lot about the way societies develop, a very interesting subject i would highly recommend it to anyone who wants to understand the way the world has arrived at this point.

hewittalan6 - 26 Jul 2006 15:28 - 26 of 34

Oh come on, Stan. You can't leave it at that.
What about a little precis???

hewittalan6 - 07 Aug 2006 20:15 - 27 of 34

New part of the manifesto.
Being a Scottish lawmaker is an absolute offence (as well as an affront to common sense) punishable by being hung upside down from an Edinburgh canon, with your ears nailed to your knees.
This is based on a threat to arrest Mel Smith and the theatre manager at the fringe festival if Mel Smith lit a cigar on stage (anti-smoking, see).
Mel Smith is playing the part of Winston Churchill!!!

Marc3254 - 11 Sep 2006 15:44 - 28 of 34

The NEW MANIFESTO

Now the votes have been counted it seems the new manifesto will go along these lines

DEFENCE - We can have an armed force but they must carry non lethal rifles, its seems camo material is to agressive so a more bluey light green is more appropiate.
They can only be used if its against a race of people that do not reside in the UK.
The total defence budget is not to exceed 143.99 per year.

Any aggressive action is to be put to a vote first. All residence in the UK may vote, only on completion of this vote and if agreed can milititary action take place.

The govenment will within the first two years purchase;

1 x Mark 1 Tank (ex WW1 - Ypres)
1 x .303 bolt action rifle (with detachable feather firing attachment)
10 x smoke mines (real ones are far to dangerous)
1 x quite good condition landrover ( a good fixer upper)



Tomorrow we annonce the Health and Immegration policy.

hewittalan6 - 11 Sep 2006 15:49 - 29 of 34

Objection.
The manifesto does not include the pledge to never ever fight anyone who has;
a) Not given written permission to be attacked
b) Fight anyone who may disagree with us in one way or another
c) Fight anyone who may fight back
d) Got a bit upset over something we did under Richard the Lionheart.

I commend these adjustments to the house (if its okay with everyone else. Shall we have a chat over a cup of tea about it. I'd hate it if you disagreed with me)

jedtom - 11 Sep 2006 16:29 - 30 of 34

i propose that, as a nation we like fighting so wouldn't it be better if we just went back to the good old days and fought the frenchies. this would have many advantages
1. cut down on travel costs thus getting the nod from gordon
2. we might win this time
3. no one objected if the war went on for 100 years at a time
4. if we captured calais we could recruit loads of young men who seem to waiting around the town with nothing better to do
5. we would be allowed to stick two fingers up and not get a asbo
6.no need to keep a navy if we timed the invasion to take advantage of off peak rail fares.
7. could use all the sheep that are held up at the ports as army rations and claim the vat back
8. always ask the germans to help if things weren't going quite to plan
9. would help to revitalise folkestone by using the barracks and might even get an EC grant for doing it thus saving even more money for gordon

i am sure there are other advantages...

Marc3254 - 12 Sep 2006 10:03 - 31 of 34

The Common Sense party would like to add the following to our defence policy as they seem like a bloody good ideas!!!

Please add 'jedtom' and hewitalan6' comments they are now part of the CSP manifesto.

Marc3254 - 12 Sep 2006 10:32 - 32 of 34

THE CSP HEALTH THE FUTURE

It vital to continue to ensure, that a health system is in place that takes into account the social diversity of our country.
We have therefore decided to abolish the current NHS system. The following will be implemented as soon as possible;
a. All hospitals will be run by a financial director. If the hospital fails to make a profit or makes too much of a profit, he / she will be shot at dawn.
b. All nurses will good looking, to aid recovery of patients.
c. The government will set limits on private health care premiums, with both upper and lower limits.
d. The ambulance service will remain and give life saving treatment and move the casualty to nearest hospital.
e. Malingerers and people faking illness to see a nurse will be shot at dawn.
f. A hangover will be a recognized illness.
g. Illegal immigrants will not be treated unless they are insured or can pay for treatment.
h. All doctors must warm all stethoscopes and hands prior to use.
i. Radical reform of waiting lists and a time management policy to be introduced to ensure all operations take place within ten days.
j. The use of plastic surgery is only to be used for incredibly ugly women ( look at Jordan she was really nice before all that surgery, now she looks like a plastic Barbie.)


bosley - 12 Sep 2006 10:51 - 33 of 34

if ever there was infighting within the csp, then i think the leader of the party should make some excellent points about how the party should stop squabling and concentrate on connecting with the electorate ..... and then piss off to the other side of the world to try to futher his staus as a world statesman.

Marc3254 - 12 Sep 2006 11:16 - 34 of 34

ok add it in
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