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RTD - Why? (RTD)     

Nitefly - 15 Sep 2003 10:55

Why are we again at 10.5p bid?

It doesn't add up...

Good Results + Strong buying pre results + Christmas online buying soon = Price drop

Then again some companies that have debt for equity hanging in the balance, poor results and bankruptcy around the corner and they go up!

Why sell now at a loss?

Wont that be a kick in the teeth when we see 13.5p 14p again!

Best of luck all.

Fundamentalist - 01 Dec 2004 17:13 - 1803 of 2406

B2B

Great to hear!!!!! Beginners luck - youve had plenty if youve got a double holding here. Plenty more to come in the long term (and prob short to medium too)

Just to prove its not only beginners SKP trades at about 70p - today a trade went through for 537.1p - a severe case of fat fingers and no doubt a bollocking from the boss!!!

Walktall - 01 Dec 2004 17:32 - 1804 of 2406

Belated thanks Fundamentalist. Had to go out.

WT

Fred1new - 01 Dec 2004 18:15 - 1805 of 2406

B2B LB Mine is a pint. Cheers

Fred1new - 03 Dec 2004 00:36 - 1806 of 2406

Isn't this thread quiet withou Douggie.

I vote for the return of douggie even if he is a sphinx

overgrowth - 03 Dec 2004 00:37 - 1807 of 2406

Lots of people taking profits today, however notice the 1.5M bought just before close again.

Surely if this was a single insitution investing they'd be over the 3% by now ?

Could well be more than one big buyer in the wings which will really help to mop up sells from those taking early profits.

Plenty of time to take profits methinks. I'll be waiting for a while until we get closer to 1 (it's going to happen).

Fundamentalist - 03 Dec 2004 09:23 - 1808 of 2406

OG

if you look at the trades there is actually 2 trades for each of these large buys. On that basis it appears to me that there have been 9m of these bought in large chunks recently which is a fraction above 3% - however there may be more than 1 buyer.

TM100 announcement is the 13th then onwards to results (assuming no contract announecements in the meantime)

Fundamentalist - 03 Dec 2004 14:45 - 1809 of 2406

And here is the news - Goldman Sachs have bought 10m (3.44%) (sorry i underestimated by 1m)


Retail Decisions PLC
03 December 2004


SCHEDULE 10

NOTIFICATION OF MAJOR INTERESTS IN SHARES


1. Name of company

RETAIL DECISIONS PLC

2. Name of shareholder having a major interest

THE GOLDMAN SACHS GROUP, INC. ('GS INC.')

3. Please state whether notification indicates that it is in respect of holding
of the shareholder named in 2 above or in respect of a non-beneficial interest
or in the case of an individual holder if it is a holding of that person's
spouse or children under the age of 18

(A) GOLDMAN, SACHS & CO, a wholly-owned direct subsidiary of GS INC., acting as
custodian for its customers; and
(B) GOLDMAN SACHS INTERNATIONAL, a wholly-owned indirect subsidiary of GS INC.

4. Name of the registered holder(s) and, if more than one holder, the number of
shares held by each of them

(A) GOLDMAN SACHS SECURITIES (NOMINEES), LIMITED 5,675
(B) GOLDMAN SACHS INTERNATIONAL A/C CREPTEMP 10,000,000

5. Number of shares / amount of stock acquired

NOT INFORMED

6. Percentage of issued class

NOT INFORMED

7. Number of shares / amount of stock disposed

NOT INFORMED

8. Percentage of issued class

NOT INFORMED

9. Class of security

ORDINARY 1P SHARES

10. Date of transaction

NOT INFORMED

11. Date company informed

03 DECEMBER 2004

12. Total holding following this notification

10,005,675

13. Total percentage holding of issued class following this notification

3.44%

14. Any additional information

N/A

15. Name of contact and telephone number for queries

RICHARD AMOS
(01483) 728700

16. Name and signature of authorised company official responsible for making
this notification

RICHARD AMOS
FINANCE DIRECTOR

Date of notification

03 DECEMBER 2004



Fundamentalist - 03 Dec 2004 14:46 - 1810 of 2406

So who are Goldman Sachs buying for?

parveen1 - 03 Dec 2004 14:58 - 1811 of 2406

certainly not me :)

pachandl - 03 Dec 2004 15:22 - 1812 of 2406

I must come clean. I have instructed Goldman Sachs, Smith Barney, Lehman, Deloitte, Morgan Stanley et al to purchase various tranches of shares in RTD. I expect to own the whole company, by proxy, within a matter of weeks at which point I will create a new encryption and testing standard for internet payments. I expect to take over most aspects of commercial dealing on the net by next July whereupon I will be sufficiently rich to buy all the investment banks and put them into liquidation - nasty people. My doctor says that I am responding well to medication and that I should be in a position to buy Glaxo and AstraZenecca by Dec 2005. After that I will take a year's sabbatical, probably at that nice country house nearby (Greenpastures Home - "comfortable residence for the mentally challenged"). Please do not congratulate me - I amsimply following a pre-ordained path to greatness. Life is so simple nowadays.

GINGERJIMMO - 03 Dec 2004 15:31 - 1813 of 2406

I am convince by pachandl - for those that aren't, could it be an MBO?

1982roy - 03 Dec 2004 16:02 - 1814 of 2406

NEWS FLASH
The shares are being bought for Douggie

Fred1new - 03 Dec 2004 16:03 - 1815 of 2406

I didn't know Tony Bliars non de plume was `pachandl`!!!

pachandl - 03 Dec 2004 16:19 - 1816 of 2406

I am off for a swim in the sea - Bude air is so refreshing at this time of year ... or should that read Bermuda? Very confusing.

Fundamentalist - 03 Dec 2004 16:30 - 1817 of 2406

Nice to see it tick up 1p before the close on a friday

pachandl - 03 Dec 2004 19:33 - 1818 of 2406

Strange to see GS accumulate 3%. T100 or not, I cannot see why GS would buy into such a comparative tiddler as RTD. They are not exactly fund managers. So my current theory, which I am happy to jettison if anyone improves upon it, is that GS are buying for a client who has pretensions to put in a bid for RTD, with GS supervising the take-over. After all, GS are take-over specialists - which is how they make their mega-bucks. Probably wrong but I cannot say that I was expecting this type of RNS today. Now if it had been a small cap fund manager then I would understand.

overgrowth - 04 Dec 2004 00:11 - 1819 of 2406

pachandl - I agree and the fact that GS have had many ructions with Cybersource in the past, suggest that it's not them.

RTD has fingers in many pies in the sector in the UK with mutually beneficial agreements etc., so as GS INC. (the parent co.) is based in the US this is likely to be a hostile bid from the US rather than the UK and that is likely to mean a healthy 40p or 50p bid.

Of course, alternatively, it may be something to do with that order to buy 10M RTD a couple of weeks ago that I placed with my trusted brokers Rampem and Hype where I asked them to get the best deal possible (considering the dollar weakness) lol!

pachandl - 04 Dec 2004 11:36 - 1820 of 2406

O/G - I have used Rampem & Hype many times and I would not hear a bad word against them.

If there is a hostile bid, a big if, then I would go for a C&P provider who wanted to enlarge their portfolio of products to cover the entire payments market - something like Torex Retail. But we all just fishing in the dark until the next RNS, if there is one.

pachandl - 05 Dec 2004 19:31 - 1821 of 2406

Having spoken to a couple of friends in the City it seems that the GS buy is probably perfectly innocent. Their asset management or investment trust business would normally buy into any firm that shows good long-term growth prospects and has become a tracker constituent. Still, it shows some faith.

moneyman - 06 Dec 2004 00:17 - 1822 of 2406

Talk on ADVF that alot of people will be adding following the GS news on Friday. Concensus seems to be why would a world reknown investment house buy into a tiddler ? Answers ;

1. Buying on behalf of someone for a bid.

2. Done their research and seen RTD as undervalued.

Either way looks marvellous ;-)
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