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haystack, good question. it seems seo are in a permanent closed period.
pinnacle, i agree with you so let's stop guessing. look at the chart instead . what does it tell you? i would say it's only going to get worse. after 18+ months of "extensive testing" there is no progress with greenseal. again seo make a statement that can be pumped up (a la masterson) but has little substance.

Charts don't take into account conracts which are in current discussion.

Thank god that my business over the last 65yrs has not been determined by charts.

If charts are so accurate, what are you going to do with saturday's lottery winnings!

Charts only suggest trends - nothing else.

With a new business with products that have not been seen before, how can a chart predict the future.

Use your commercial and business sense to make decisions and put yourself in the place of the stanelco directors - if you held as many shares as howard white - would you want the business to fail - hardly.

So for what it is worth - think more broadly as if you owned the business.

I too have'nt seen anything today thats has fundamently changed my opinion re this company.
IT's a long term hold.
I won't top up until a deal is signed.
BUT theres monies in the bank waiting.
Patience.

"would you want the business to fail - hardly" is not a helpful comment. It is not a question of whether he wants the business to fail. It is a question of can he make a success of it.

pinnacle,

"Charts don't take into account conracts which are in current discussion"

yes they do. it's called "buy on rumour , sell on news". look at every spike and subsequent drop.

"Charts only suggest trends - nothing else."

what "trend " has the chart been suggesting for the last 10 months?

"if you held as many shares as howard white - would you want the business to fail - hardly."

what has howard been doing to halt the sp from sliding?

"Use your commercial and business sense to make decisions "

i did. i only wish i had used it sooner at 31p rather than 18p and 15p.

i truly believe that it is nigh on impossible to be objective while you are a shareholder. the seo picture becomes a lot clearer once you no longer have any shares. try it.

Can't see what all the fuss is about.

1) Extending the exclusivity with ASDA is not price-sensitive enough to merit an RNS.

2) Extending exclusivity for a year is natural- they can't be renegotiating every 3 or 6 months.

3) Exclusivity ends when first machine installed - ASDA know they cannot hold onto exclusivity forever, they just want to be FIRST.

Ian Balchin's mobile was a bad line- he could have said "exclusivity has been extended" aloowing for about a fifth of a second drop out??

He also said funding was "in hand"- I guess another fund-raising is planned. Always the way, start up technologies always take longer and need more cash than you can ever admit at launch.

Still holding and hating the SP, but still holding the business which is good on a 5-10 year view.

sd

Good posts stockdog and pinnacle, IMO.

Bosley, what a load of old coblers!

Charts only illustrate the SP of the past - they are only a record of PAST levels. Did the charts predict the rise last year from around 3.6p to 28p, and then the fall? If they did, Bos, I expect you made a handsome profit, but I doubt you did.

You'll be telling us next you use a crystal ball to choose your shares!!

What we're seeing now is a lot of blinking, a lot of flapping and panicking, based purely on the SP.

Forget the SP and look at the facts. If the SP was 24p with the same facts there would be no doubts -it is purely the SP that is causing the doubt and the SP at present is set by investors with less knowledge than us of what is going on in SEO - probably by people who take their info from press reports (or charts).

ASDA is still interested, we're told no technical probs with Greenseal and Starpol has full approval. Conversions are imminent or at most within the next year. We have been told that Starpol is selling well in the U.S. - the sales figs will hit the results in October.

This all looks good still - have faith in your original judgement to invest. The SP is low because not all investors are as clever as we are!!!!!

The confusion has, IMO, been added to because SEO are a tiny firm not used to dealing with the likes of ASDA/WM. They are out of their depth and have got the timescale completely wrong.

This has resulted in a lack of confidence. The bottom line is that the product is very good, it works, and ASDA want it.

oblo, in answer to your questions, yes the chart did predict a rise and a fall. yes i did make a handsome profit and no i don't use a crystal ball.

"The SP is low because not all investors are as clever as we are"

oh dear.

i agree with the earlier post that this statement has been released due to investor pressure, as at 5.30 balchin said clearly to me that yes exclusivity has ended but we are not talking to anyone else, he could have told me it was being extended as it was not price sensitive.

Bos,

I dont believe it - show me the chart please! It may have recorded it but it couldn't have predicted it, particularly the bounce.

For example, how could a chart following someone's income of 50,000 per annum who won the lottery predict the jump to, say, 5,000,050?





As to how clever those of us who haven't yet blinked are, time will tell!

I agree the company are pathetic when it comes to investor relations. Ever the optimist, I take the view that ASDA extending can only be good news and maybe they're waiting for Starpol 3000 approval so we can go straight into the complete "vertically integrated solution" or whatever the hell it's called. Here's hoping. Still in for the long term.

bosley,

Obviously hit a raw nerve with you.

Most enjoyable.

The SP is low because not all investors are as clever as we are!!!!!

The clever investers sold when the price was around 16p and took profits around 28p and will buy back in when the time is right, if and when that will ever be, that now leaves the novice holders who don't know one of the basic market principals of cutting your loses.

aldwick, There is a more basic 'market principal, and that is 'sell for more than you bought' - I'm still fairly confident of doing that.

Ceasefire!

Shame the SP is where it is, and hindsight is wonderfull. Some called it right on certain occasions over the past year and are sitting pretty on a profit. Those who have called it "right" do not do so all the time, else we would not hear from them here as they'd be filthy rich and would certainly have moved on!

There's a chap on another BB who's been drivelling on about 3p for well over 18 months. I guess he could very soon be self-gratifying! Another had been spouting 6p for almost as long.

Pick a number not too far away from where the SP is and sometime over the next year it will be hit!

heads-up guys, recall a debate originating from Alan's cricket mate re: Starpol, well just had a look at the Biotec products and:

"No substances produced with genetically modified organisms are used for this granule (GMO-free)"

This was for Bioplast GF 106/02.

pinnacle, taking my profit was far more enjoyable.

'The SP is low because not all investors are as clever as we are!!!!!'

lol

Does look a pretty stupid thing to say, now I've taken off the beer-glasses!

Wheres that chart, Bos?

What a sad reflection of society this board is becoming!

The purpose of this site is to keep the flow of constructive information flowing so we can all in some way benefit.

As a very last comment:

Stanelco will survive.

They will in time be successful.

Will they be allowed to fulfill their potential before being taken over - debatable.

If you have a sensible average price - yes you will make money - but in time.


Good luck to all.

Referee speaking.
I can see both points of view from here.
How can the "antis" be wrong. The sp is woeful, many people are sitting on a paper loss and the news is as transparent as half set concrete. SEO have failed to deliver almost everything they promised (within the timescales, that is) and the company is getting low on tea money. All this is absolutley true.
How can the "pros" be wrong. The products are the same ones that saw the sp rise 7 fold, the potential contracts are the same ones and the clients are still very involved. The business (Not financial) fundamentals are the same as the ones who had everyone jumping aboard 2 years ago. All this is absolutely true.
Several years ago I sat at my kitchen table with an old friend and we discussed a business idea. We were skint and couldn't finance the start of it. We approached the institutions and they told us to bugger off. My friends Mum eventually lent us a few quid to get it going. Months later we were skint again and we showed the business accounts and contracts to banks and his mum again, looking for more money. This time even his mum told us to bugger off. The charts suggested bankruptcy, but we knew that we were more than a couple of fat lads with an idea, and that the business would win eventually. We stopped paying our personal bills to make sure the business survived.
The point behind this tale of woe is that we were asking for a very small amount of cash to back our business, and in return we were offering a 25% share. Had anyone ignored the "charts" and seen the potential, they would have seen returns of 5000% in 3 years.
It could have gone the other way, of course and they could have lost everything and SEO is much the same. It will make a mint or lose the lot. The chart predicts one and the business (as pinnicle and Oblo point out) say another.
I am not a chartist and don't believe very much in its predictive abilities, but many do and the sp of any company is heavily driven by the modern investment practice of technical trading. It will take a major "heads up" to turn the sp round. If and when it does, technical trading will work in the sp's favour and drive it higher and faster than the news alone.
Conclusion. If you are a chartist or a cautious trader, you're right. Get shut of it and stay away. If you are a speculative investor, or more interested in the potential that undoubtedly exists, you're right. Stay in.
Long drawn out way of saying that arguing investment policy on one stock is pointless, as none of us know each others strategy, aims or make up of total portfolios, and where this stock is right for me and my portfolio, it is probably not right for Bos and his.
Alan