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FTSE + FTSE 250 - consider trading (FTSE)     

cynic - 20 Oct 2007 12:12

rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.

for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ

for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance

cynic - 07 Apr 2008 11:26 - 1810 of 21973

if in doubt, do nowt ...... if anything, would be inclined to short

maggiebt4 - 07 Apr 2008 11:29 - 1811 of 21973

Spitfire Is that Ftse daily? b'cos Ftse april with IG spread is 6 + extra 3. Can you roll over a daily bet ? knowing my luck if I short it I'll go up.

cynic - 07 Apr 2008 11:43 - 1812 of 21973

just for info, i think IG CFDs charge $10 in each direction per $2 mini-Dow contract, and FTSE must be similarly small - i.e. 5 in each direction per 2 mini-FTSE contract

FTSE spread during market hours is 2 points or 4 outside
I think Dow is be 4 or 6 outside

bhunt1910 - 07 Apr 2008 12:16 - 1813 of 21973

Thanks for the info guys

Will look at SB's

spitfire43 - 07 Apr 2008 13:45 - 1814 of 21973

Hi Maggie, yes the 2 points was for a daily rolling bet, you can roll it over to next day for a small charge. Sometimes if you want to take a longer position, maybe over a week or longer it can pay to use a CFD contract.

maggiebt4 - 07 Apr 2008 13:48 - 1815 of 21973

Thanks Spitfire might take a dabble but not today.

bhunt1910 - 07 Apr 2008 15:12 - 1816 of 21973

one of those funny days again with the dow dropping since the open and the Ftse holding - even pushing up ??

cynic - 07 Apr 2008 16:35 - 1817 of 21973

Dow remains decidedly undecided ...... am glad i have taken no position at all, but still remain inclined to short, but shall wait and watch

Toya - 07 Apr 2008 17:03 - 1818 of 21973

I've been 'scalping' (thanks pth: didn't know the term before) and actually over-achieved my earnings target for the day so am tempted to leave it at that rather than risk squandering it. I would not have been brave enough to try and predict where the ftse or dow would go from the start of the day to the end, so scalping suits me better.

cynic - 07 Apr 2008 17:06 - 1819 of 21973

i've already been scalped!

bhunt1910 - 07 Apr 2008 17:42 - 1820 of 21973

scalped - I have been beheaded. FTSE so strong at the moment - really did not expect it to go above 6900 today. Think I will go back to gardening

Falcothou - 07 Apr 2008 17:44 - 1821 of 21973

I didn't expect 6900 either! Are you sure you are not trading the DAX ?

Toya - 07 Apr 2008 17:45 - 1822 of 21973

bhunt: at least gardening is productive, though I've not done as much as I should have been out there. Hope you find your head again, and Cynic his scalp!

ptholden - 07 Apr 2008 18:11 - 1823 of 21973

Well, I've been on the golf course and won 2 so nothing lost on the markets today, in fact I engaged in a bit of FTSE scalping earlier and made 4!!

spitfire43 - 07 Apr 2008 18:20 - 1824 of 21973

Well done a profit is profit, I finnished scalping up 28, but should have done better, I just can't sit and watch the computer all day. I played Golf last Friday and won two Golf balls, I can't play for money, even 3 euros a round makes me nervous!!

bhunt1910 - 07 Apr 2008 18:24 - 1825 of 21973

Well spotted Falco - perhaps thats where I am going wrong -looking at the wrong index!!

Falcothou - 07 Apr 2008 19:37 - 1826 of 21973

On some platforms it's quite easy to trade dax instead of FTSE, and I'm not talking railway stations or 70's shoes here. In fact I actually made a profit (unsually) by doing just that!

bhunt1910 - 07 Apr 2008 23:33 - 1827 of 21973

At 7pm the FTSE was +77 and the Dow + 103.

At the 9pm the FTSE was +53 (-24) and the Dow -3 (-100). The dow is so much more volatile than the FTSE. I would have been happier if the FTSE had dropped 100+ points !!

Lets hope te Hang Seng and Japan are weaker overnight

cynic - 08 Apr 2008 07:25 - 1828 of 21973

made a minor loss being long Dow yesterday evening, but have made that up and a bit more shorting o'night ......

to me, it is almost inconceivable that we are not in for another very difficult month's trading with all sorts of potentially horrid figures to come out of the financial sector woodwork over the coming weeks.

what happens thereafter (aha! May = go away?) is anyone's guess, much depending on whether the interest rates to come, and more importantly, the effect of those now in the past, start to take the desired effect on consumer confidence, especially in USA.

Falcothou - 08 Apr 2008 08:30 - 1829 of 21973

DOW dipped after the bell last night with Alcoa posting earnings below analyst's expectations and is a stock according to Bloomberg that is a bell-wether for how companies are dealing with rising commodity prices, ie not very well!
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