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stanelco .......a new thread (SEO)     

bosley - 20 Feb 2004 09:34

Chart.aspx?Provider=EODIntra&Code=SEO&SiChart.aspx?Provider=EODIntra&Code=SEO&Si

for more information about stanelco click on the links.

driver's research page link
http://www.moneyam.com/InvestorsRoom/posts.php?tid=7681#lastread
website link
http://www.stanelco.co.uk/index.htm


hewittalan6 - 31 Jul 2006 12:30 - 18132 of 27111

Baza,
Where ya been?????
Love it when you get something in your water. At one stage this was a better indicator than any candle pattern or golden cross!!
Glad you're keeping well.
Alan

cynic - 31 Jul 2006 14:18 - 18133 of 27111

ALAN ..... a very polite Q ...... let's assume you are right that SEO will come good eventually ..... surely, even when it does, it will happen in stages and thus will not rocket from the current 5p to say 25p (or even 15p) overnight, or even if it does, it should mean there is even better news to come ....... With that in mind, I ask the same as i did yesterday ...... At least for the time being, would your money not better employed elsewhere, with a watching brief on SEO so you can jump back in as soon s something truly seems to be happening?

hewittalan6 - 31 Jul 2006 14:35 - 18134 of 27111

Still think not, cynic.
Novice i aint, but my timing has a habit of being atrocious. i take comfort in the fact that research shows that on average, timing out and back in again is a sure fire losing strategy. Can't remember where I read it but a weighted study of professional fund managers and investers showed it to be the case that timing the market led to increased costs that outweighed the increased returns.
Even with a fairly tight spread, as SEO has at the moment of about 1% means a large drop in value.
100k sold, bought in to another stock, sold from that and then bought back into an unchanged SEO would present a bill of about 4%+. My issue is that the start of an SP change could be any day now, so to sell, reinvest, sell and reinvest agian would effectively knock my holding down by 4%, if i got back in before the news that i hope will come. if it were after then I may lose 8 or 9% of my holding. To make the gamble worthwhile requires a stock that I can be certain will make 10%+ in a matter of a few days, and I am afraid if that stock existed, then we would all be in it already and the price hike would have gone!!
This is what I mean when I say that one needs to know strategies, aims and personal circumstances before judging whether someone is right or wrong to buy /sell /hold.
In April I posted a report on my 12 months and how it had been on the NOWT thread. You would see from that that I had a bad 12 months due to trying to time it (and going too heavy on the minnows) and that I declared then my intention to go back to my tried and trusted formula. In a nutshell, the bulk of my investing is handled by professionals. The remaining part of my portfolio is largely in blue chips and my "gambling money" comes form top slicing the blue chips and non-reinvested dividends, so it is almost free money.
That is a polite answer to the question.
Alan

aldwickk - 31 Jul 2006 14:42 - 18135 of 27111

Yes Alan, thats what i have been telling you but its to late now, you should have sold at 16p.

cynic - 31 Jul 2006 14:44 - 18136 of 27111

As you know, I am no fan of this stock .... In fact all I know is that they (hope to) make biodegradable clingfilm ...... I only follow vaguely because I am totally bemused by the huge volume of posts for a company that, certainly at first glance, seems to have failed to deliver every time.

hewittalan6 - 31 Jul 2006 14:45 - 18137 of 27111

Just as a BTW, Bos (cos I know you read this). Back to charting. Have a look at one I have banged on about for a while, HYC. Dead cross at the end of June and a near vertical 25% rise since then.
I don't doubt charting, but it's not the philosophers stone!!!
Whatever works for you?
Alan

hewittalan6 - 31 Jul 2006 14:49 - 18138 of 27111

Wonder what language he speaks?? (not you Cynic)
Can't possibly be English, because he misreads everything ever posted.
Whichever week it is that you get a use of the family braincell, come back on the board and read it again.
In the meantime, grab the OED and look up "gambling", "atrotious" and "free".
You might then understand the underlying philosophy of my investment practice, why it has workd so well in the past and why I don't give a gnats if the SP ends up at -1!!!
Some people really are very dense. this ones so dense he's probably got his own gravity.

aldwickk - 31 Jul 2006 14:52 - 18139 of 27111

''weighted study of professional fund managers and investers showed it to be the case that timing the market led to increased costs that outweighed the increased returns.''

They were referring to the market as a whole not to a individual share.

automatic - 31 Jul 2006 14:56 - 18140 of 27111

cynic
you say your no fan of SEO, then what the hell you doing on this BB then, is your life so boreing , you don't hold yet you want to give others advice??get out of here

driver - 31 Jul 2006 14:59 - 18141 of 27111

cynic "Who is she where did she come from"

hewittalan6 - 31 Jul 2006 15:02 - 18142 of 27111

Deary me, its getting too easy to expose him as the fraud he let everyone know he was on other boards.
Pray tell, my know everything friend, how you could possibly know that, when you have no idea which study i was referring to?
Could it be you are making things up? Or trying to cause trouble in your own silly little primary school ways again? Or jumping to conclusions as you have on every other post made?
Whichever. it does not look good. I would also submit that timing the market is considerably easier than timing an individual stock. SEO announcing a contract worth 30million would have virtually zero effect on the markets but would, undoubtedly cause the SP to vanish skywards.
Try again.

automatic - 31 Jul 2006 15:04 - 18143 of 27111

same as last week buys outnumber sells SP dosn't move , get one sell of 30,000 SP goes down , it is just a pity that MAM and TIM keep putting these trades as buys and getting it wrong all the time

aldwickk - 31 Jul 2006 15:04 - 18144 of 27111

'' the bulk of my investing is handled by professionals. The remaining part of my portfolio is largely in blue chips ''

If it was left to you to invest it, you would be broke by now. blue chips are a no brainer so they should suit you sir, 95% of the time they come good long term.

cynic - 31 Jul 2006 15:05 - 18145 of 27111

free world ..... this BB has far more interest than SEO, though sometimes this company of very questionable worth and value seems to dominate the postings.

hewittalan6 - 31 Jul 2006 15:09 - 18146 of 27111

Jumping to more conclusions!!! This is like spearing a fish in a barrell!!
How, my dear little conclusion jumping friend, do you think i amassed sufficient funds to make it possible to hand over a large amount of money to professionals, still invest a large amount myself, and enjoy a flutter on the minnows and have time to sit and while away an afternoon laughing at you???
Success with the few quid I had when I started.
Now run along and try it on with someone of your own intelectual abilities. I'll find Jordans website for you.

aldwickk - 31 Jul 2006 15:11 - 18147 of 27111

Are you saying that this weighted study of professional fund managers were not referring to the market as a whole ?

cynic - 31 Jul 2006 15:12 - 18148 of 27111

come on children .... cut throwing the toys

aldwickk - 31 Jul 2006 15:15 - 18149 of 27111

'' I'll find Jordans website for you '' that will be easy its on your favourites list.

hewittalan6 - 31 Jul 2006 15:17 - 18150 of 27111

I am saying no such thing. Unlike others I jump to no conclusions, I do not offer unsubstantiated rumour, I do not calim victories that are not mine, I do own up to bad mistakes and I make no assumptions as to peoples reasons for investing the way they do.
I do not remember the details of that particular study, but I am fairly certain that predicting the market, or sections of it is simple when compared to predicting and timing one single company. I would be very suprised though if the study did refer to the market as a whole, because most fund managers specialise in sections of it.

samon - 31 Jul 2006 15:21 - 18151 of 27111

Where is our " peace and love " logo?

Correct statement -" this BB has for more interest than seo" - But this happens to be THE SEO thread.

Come on Guys ( and may be Girls from a comment a short while ago), there is enough fighting going on in other areas - lets get back to a lighter note.

Sooner have your 'shady' jokes .

Tea and biscuits anyone? Large Brandy on its way .
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