Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

More on the Hillsborough Disaster.

It really was a momentous day yesterday for those who have fought so long and hard to have their loved ones cleared of these horrific smears that has now been proven. Now most of the truth is finally known the justice must now follow.
It will be interesting to see just how far the awareness of this outrage has been known.

For a cover up of this scale I would find it hard to believe that those at the very top were not at least informed. That would mean that Thatcher, Major, Blair, Brown and Cameron would have known, if not all the details then the salient parts.

But then cover ups of this scale start to become conspiracy theories but again surely that can’t be true in our country.. could it?

Raising Jesus from the dead is mentioned in a work of fiction called the New Testament. And why was it necessary to raise Jesus from the dead? The absurd answer is that his father sent him to earth to die and effectively forgive the orginal sin that people are born with. The original sin that god made sure people had when they were born. Actually, belief in fairies is not sounding that strange after that story.

was jesus dead when they took him down from the cross . .
then where did he go when he died. that is the question

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haystack well said . if there was a god would he allow ignorant uneducated morons to kill in is name unless he is real and evil. lets just look at facts no one as ever come back to tell us. that is fact.

Hays,

It is how you tell them that counts.










(Sounds a bit like the mythology of tory party political meeting.)

(Read ideology for mythology and capitalism as the religion.)

just look at those ignorant uneducated sub humans in egpty today that about sums them up . send in the tanks and planes .and show them power .

Tanker,

Back home to his Dad!

hillsborough . so we now know that we can not trust the police .
the uk is a cesspit . run by the rich for the rich .
and the police stand up in courts to give evidense againts good people
when are the police who took bribes from the N.O.T.W going to be charged.
the leveson inquiry cost millions .and we have no answers . only that the police
gave them the info for cash.

mnamreh

What is all this . about ? if you got something to say ,say it

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All religions are/were good, but they are being misused in many communities.

You can probably say most of them are now outdated! Like the old mobiles as compared to iphone 5.

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Hillsborough papers: Calls for 'essential prosecutions'

A criminal investigation into the police handling of the 1989 Hillsborough football disaster must happen, an ex-chief constable has said.

Richard Wells, who led South Yorkshire Police from 1990 to 1998, said charges were "absolutely essential" after a damning report into the tragedy.

The New Testament is non-fiction; that is why it is called a testament, if you want to know the events following the death of Jesus then read it.

Regarding Hillsborough the fact remains that despite the failings of the authorities if the fans had behaved sensibily nobody would have got hurt.

when I was a youth you trusted the police and had respect for them today .
well they ae not in the police for the job at hand just in the poice for the money and the perks . you can not trust them . this is bad news. but fact.

They were not failings, the rest of your sentence is irrelevant.

The New Testament would not be much without the stories made up by St Paul. Until his road to damasus conversion, he was a local confidence trixster known as Paul The Liar.

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Tanker,

If you were a youth and weren't aware of police corruption at that time, you were naive.

The police had many corrupt and still have corrupt officers and also made "mistakes". Part and parcel of large organisations.

But I think in general they have cleaned up their act, but trying to get the right "team" spirit without a degree of "protectionism" is difficult.

The major difference, between today and yesterday, is that the establishments are less powerful and that "wrong" doings and mistakes are more likely to be exposed in the media.

Also, there are more advocates to take up rightful causes and get a hearing.


From some of the actions or legal changes this government is wishing to impose, I think that they are trying to reimpose the power of the said "elite" or "establishment.

Who wish to hide, or wash their dirty linen behind closed doors.

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Interesting remark made by Maggie to Hurd!