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MADOFF (PONZ)     

halifax - 30 Jun 2009 13:41

So Bernie gets his free place in a secure retirement home, but where is the money. Perhaps the feds should start digging on Mt Sion?

cynic - 09 Jul 2009 12:27 - 182 of 268

YOU!!!!!! .... and in all senses of the word

Clubman3509 - 09 Jul 2009 12:31 - 183 of 268

Try retard for yourself

One good thing about living here in Thailand is we do not have that PC UK bullshit
here one can call a spade a spade, and a Jew a parosite on mankind

cynic - 09 Jul 2009 12:36 - 184 of 268

oh dear ...... such limited mental and social skills ..... amazing that you should think it does other than show you in your true light

halifax - 09 Jul 2009 12:41 - 185 of 268

Madoff's Ponzi scam has by his own admission being going on for a couple of decades. It is quite possible funds were slowly moved possibly through London to Israel and invested in companies and real estate. It would be very difficult to unravel, whereas just keeping the money in accounts in tax havens is too obvious.Madoff had a plan to hide the money he stole and leaving it in bank accounts was probably not part of that plan.

cynic - 09 Jul 2009 12:44 - 186 of 268

halifax .... why would he want to invest "his" money specifically in the israeli economy? ...... i know he's jewish, but that is a complete non seq

Clubman3509 - 09 Jul 2009 12:48 - 187 of 268

This is why people hate the Jews

IanT(MoneyAM) - 09 Jul 2009 12:57 - 188 of 268

All,

Please be aware personal insults, and any breach of our code of conduct will be viewed seriously and could result in removal of access to these bulletin boards. We have received complaints about this thread, and we will be monitoring it closely.

Please stick to the subject.

Ian

halifax - 09 Jul 2009 13:00 - 189 of 268

cynic who knows, most jews like to send money to Israel for various reasons. Don't forget the old saying "Jesus saves Moses invests".

cynic - 09 Jul 2009 13:26 - 190 of 268

who says? ... for sure there are a number of very worthy jewish-orientated charities that may or may not be based in israel, which some (not necessarily jews) will choose to support, but that is a million miles from what you are saying.

at the end of the day madoff, like most wealthy people, is/was a business man and it is almost inconceivable that more than a small proportion (if any) of his cash would have been placed there

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IAN
Good, and none too soon ..... thank you

halifax - 09 Jul 2009 13:32 - 191 of 268

cynic why do you continue to support the activities of this self admitted thief?

cynic - 09 Jul 2009 13:36 - 192 of 268

i don't remotely, but i most strongly object to the stance of some that there is a link with him being jewish.

perhaps not very well, but i have tried to highlight that BM would probably have been just as successful in his swindle had he been Confusian (if you like!), the backbone for it all being his business CV

Fred1new - 09 Jul 2009 13:47 - 193 of 268


Cynic, the strange thing for me, looking superficially at Jewish history, is for how long the Jews, as entity have been vilified throughout history and in such a large number of countries. I would suppose it due initially to being wanderers and then traders, but with commercial, family or cultural connections.
Out of interest, I had a look at the persecution of Jews and the plague. I wondered what the hygiene connection was. For various reasons, I was a little sceptical that personal hygiene was of particular value in preventing particular disease. Although, storage of food, etc. and avoidance of vermin would have been.
However, I did come across this Website which seems more probable as the cause of the persecution.

http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/jewish/1348-jewsblackdeath.html

Ps, I am supposing that the information is factual.

required field - 09 Jul 2009 14:00 - 194 of 268

Fred1new : that last post has nothing to do with the subject in question...Madoff is the subject and there seems to be plenty like him out there, more fraudsters to uncover...

required field - 09 Jul 2009 14:05 - 195 of 268

Boiler room scams...I've had dodgy calls from people trying to sell land and shares, the police need to trap these people.

spitfire43 - 09 Jul 2009 14:16 - 196 of 268

Talking of fraudsters, Robert Maxwell is a interesting case, apparently fell or jumped of a boat near Tenerife. I don't normally go for conspiracy theories, but there is no way he would have committed suicide, he lived out the rest of his naturel life in Israel.

Fred1new - 09 Jul 2009 14:16 - 197 of 268

RF, As you get older you are becoming more pompous. The remarks were to Cynic.

required field - 09 Jul 2009 14:21 - 198 of 268

Spitfire43, he might have been pushed....!.

Balerboy - 09 Jul 2009 14:34 - 199 of 268

We'd all be better off if there was no such thing as religion, it's a cloak to hide behind. In this day and age no one believes in God, just greed for more of someone else's property. Which is the basis of why we're all on this board, to make money.
The fact is we want the oil price to go up, we want the world to buy more oil and polute the world's atmosphere. Who on here gives a s**t, we all do well out of our share dealing, and thats all we care about.
regards BB

cynic - 09 Jul 2009 14:37 - 200 of 268

RF .... you are correct, but Fred's post is interesting for all that.

The easy bit ..... the plague, which had regular outbreaks until about 1720 (in UK) i think, was spread by fleas ...... it follows that general and personal hygiene will discourage the flea's occurrence in the immediate environment - e.g. on the person and/or in the home.

Now to persecution ..... in the Middle Ages, the Jews were banned from practicing almost all trades in many countries so found themselves almost forced to take up money-lending - a bit simplified, but sufficient for the purpose.

At that time, many or even most Jews wore distinctive clothing, so were easily identified. In times of economic hardship, either personal or general, it was easier to "persecute the Jews" than to repay what was owed. For all that, it is somewhat ironic that after a while, the Jews were often invited back to those self-same countries, for they had all the right contacts etc for the raising of necessary funds.

Fred1new - 09 Jul 2009 15:34 - 201 of 268

Cynic, Read http://www.avma.org/reference/zoonosis/znplague.asp

You will probably understand what I am getting at. Cleanliness or hygiene is useful, but the source is often the main problem. Clean kids going to school come back with scabies, lice, etc.. Washing does not prevent this.

The use of various herbs was attempted to prevent infestations. Rue being one of the herbs, which was placed as "flooring". The strange thing about Rue is it is quite a potent "allergen" and often causes skin rashes in gardeners.

Balerboy, you are of course writing about you own values?
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