Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Ahoj,

I don't think one person can be responsible for the self evoked actions of another.

The "thought" preceding the action belongs to the individual who carries out the action.

Whether it is justifiable or not is another argument.

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I am very sensitive about my roses and anybody who mocks them or denigrates them is looking for trouble.

Depends on who the culprits are as how painful to them my response will be.

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(Bad example, as the majority of my roses has rust.)

The publishing of the material in order to deliberately provoke "problems" is difficult in practice, but the best way could be self censorship. (Needs a better educated mass.)


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Tanker,

Are you a paid up member of UKIP, the BNP or both?

the leaders of the western world have let down there people big time when are they going to take action to stop the muslims taking over the world .
because that is what is happening .it is time to take back the west and deport those that want to harm the west . our leaders have no balls .
and if you did NOT know the muslim countrys are at WAR with the west
time the west took action . instead of turning a blind eye

I am A TRUE TORY and was proud to say so .but this pair of wimps have turned my views vote UKIP OR BNP. for a tory to post this it is bad news for a once great party .
that these liars and wimps have destroyed. mark prithard says he is a right wing
then it must be at football . he is a total wimp .a 5 year old girl as my balls.than this shower in power.

Tanker.

This coalition cabinet is just a bunch of immature, under-educated self interested, politically naive, posh boys and girls.

They don't analyse their "bright" ideas before rushing to the press. That is why they will be remembered a U-turn government and failures.

But the UKIP and BNP have the same traits, but in diamonds. (Personally, preferred Spades.)


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Back, to the charts.

Don't know why I feel so reluctant about taking a few more gambles in the market?

fred it will end up with a WAR of the west verses the muslims it is just when.

and when it happens the wst will not hold back .balls of the brittish will be shown .

It doesn't have to.

Also, in the long term nobody gains from wars, other than the bankers and armament makers.

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One reason for strengthening and democratising the UN is that it may lead eventually to few bloody conflicts.

But the real motivation behind the ME conflicts is GREED not religion and the best solution is greater democracy in one "form" of another in that area.

That means elevation of social standards, education and a more equitable distribution of the wealth of their resources.


Also, for the West to help them, not prey on them, not to preach to them or manage those countries in way that is advantageous to the west, but is advantageous to the overall populations of the countries concerned.

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Power, is used to feed greed and personal greed is often the driving force for obtaining power.

a 5 year old girl as my balls.

Careful TANKER you can get locked up for that

Sir Ranulph Fiennes to attempt record Antarctica trek

British explorer Sir Ranulph Fiennes is to lead the first team on foot across Antarctica during the southern winter.

The six-month expedition next year will see the group endure temperatures as low as -90C and is being called the Coldest Journey.

It will be 68-year-old Sir Ranulph's latest record attempt. Past feats have seen him go pole to pole and climb Everest as a pensioner.

Guinness World Records describes him as the world's greatest living explorer.

-90C .. Must be one of the coldest ways to commit suicide.

Fred,
I agree that the person himmself should be kept accountable, and at the smae time freedom of speed should support free discussion about every topic. BUT, the issue is that we are dealing with completely different cultures which are not demcratic in the same way we undestand (define) in the west.

We cannot impose the same democracy, so should be flexible to be able to work with them untill all converge...

Time will solve problems, but being rigid delays everything.

Tony Blair has not yet understood what Middle East is and, I think, he will never does.

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Start the week now! R4. Salmon Rushdie http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01mnr5k

Joseph Anton !

Book of the week as well.. he's everywhere this week -): http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01mqlwl

Interesting news on Hillsborough on Women's hour now.

You have turned to your feminine side too then! :-)

.. And not for the 1st time -):

On a serious note the more I hear about the conduct of some individuals of some of the institutions involved in the Hillsborough cover-up the more angry and sick of them I feel.

Stan - I totally agree - its hard to believe that sort of (police) behaviour is within recent times!i

Anyway - talk of hysteria' and "paroxysmal convulsions", is making me feel a bit uncomfortable now - might go and make tea!

Yes, or an early coffee in my case.

For the media addicts and political bent and haven't already noticed, these programmes may be of interest:-

For those interested in Eurozone politics


Politics Europe as part of the Daily and Sunday Politics

Andrew Neil


http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01mtnhg

So far seems unbiased and informative.


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Another program which may be of interest to some

http://www.radiotimes.com/episode/r7tsb/masters-of-money--series-1---1-keynes

Stephanie Flanders

Considers Maynard Keynes contribution to economic theories.
9pm - 9:59pm
BBC2 , BBC HD