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The BBC2 program about VoIP last Friday was interesting but only scratched the surface. It covered Skype, which I think is a bit of a novelty but also Vonage which is more of a serious provider. There are dozens like that around. You don't even need a call provider to use VoIP. If you have a downloadable soft phone or an IP phone then you can connect for free is you know the IP address of the other person. The call operators effectively give your IP address a phone number. I could give you a huge list of VoIP operators that can be used from your PC or with an ATA adaptor you can use your own normal phone over broadband without a PC. This is a very dificult market to make money in long term. Small cut price call shops like EVS/CCR will find life gets tougher over the next year as major carriers eat into their business.

Advan, sorry to hear you have not been well of late, hope you are better before you go on your break.

This thread looks great with all the...

"Haystack - 25 May'05 - 00:06 - 182 of 182 (Filtered)"

...plastered all over the place.

However, Insiderinsider does seem to have a point when he suggests that EVS will be stuck around 3.5p to 4.5p without news to confirm that things are progressing in a possitive manner.

I feel that all we can do at this point in time is just sit tight with our investments and wait for the inevitable (as far as I'm concerned) possitive update from EVS.

There was a positive broker's update for EVS. However it was from Seymour Pierce which are EVS's house broker. It looks like they are supporting their client. Whenever did a house broker not say bullish things about their client. How often has a house broker issued a sell note. I would have thought that many people would ignore a lot of what a house broker had to say.

Morning, anyone who's up and about.

Good morning all! I may be mute, but my typing finger is still operational!

Tangle, thanks for your comment, I don't think I have ever experienced such feverish sweating! Woke up again this morning, absolutely drenched. I have lost a few pounds though which is handy! This is my last day to pull myself together for Paris on Thursday!

The other half wants to put it off but I think I would rather be there coughing than here!!!

With regards to EVS, there are two main things that are now required to get us moving, one being an update on the uptake of CCR and the other confirmation that revenues have continued as per forecasts.

To be fair, the market have seen but one good set of results which caused mass buying which obviously took the SP too far, too quick!

The market now needs to see that it was not a flash in the pan but a continued recovery story.

It is relatively clear without having to dig too deep, that CCR is receiving a positive response, I know of a few people who have sold this into a large database. I have no doubt we will all be very suprised when we eventually hear how it has progressed, bearing in mind it's recent launch.

Our derampers fail to see just how diverse this product is, and only acknowledge it as another cheap international call service. It is way, way more than that!

I am still very confident we will breach the 10p level when the next set of results appear, perhaps finding a new support level at about 7/8p.

CCR will be a cash generator, the profit markup is quite phenomonal and if the take up carries on as is, it will produce an ongoing and increasing revenue for Envesta Telecom with little cost to operate.

It would be a very interesting angle if Envesta could acquire a small Asian telecom and install their switching into that, allowing CCR to be used in return. I do know that these things are all under consideration for the future so given time, it could be one of those stocks that you always wished you had bought at 4p!!!

The management of Envesta do monitor the thread so I have informed them last night that there is a new one on here and that we are going to endeavour to structure it for sensible discussion and not let it degenerate as the one on ADV. (Evening humour still required)

Hopefully, if everyone adheres to the requirements as per the header, we will maintain sanity!

morning Taquila....... It feels like a new begining, new thread, good conversation, and plenty happening in the company for us to discuss. I would just like to add that this thread will be policed at all times in regards to the last paragraph of the header. Apart from that there are no rules, agree disagree, tell jokes, post anything.

Pete

Hi Advan, sorry to hear that your'e not fully operational as yet - sounds a nasty little bug youv'e picked up. This thread feels a lot more normal, with positive aspects of EVS being discussed (negative comments difficult as the facts are known, all of which give the investor's confidence in the company).

Obviously looking forward to any news released by EVS, but still nice to be able to keep picking up shares for this low price - as you say, one day we'll all wish we'd bought at 4p!!

Morning Pete - thought you'd be out there polishing the caravan already!!

All; Just so you are all clear on our policy here on MoneyAM. We are pretty liberal on postings, but when a poster abuses others in a personal way or posts personal details of other posters we then get the yellow and red card system into play. Having a negative or a positive view on a stock is not abuse, it is what the market is all about.

To save our support system getting lots of emails we are not going to change the way we operate our filters!!!

Mike

MD MoneyAM

Just a quick note from me:

I will allow freedom of speech here, which means that both POSITIVE and NEGATIVE comment on this company will be permitted.

I will not allow any personal abuse of any kind. May I make a suggestion? can we all stick to the topic at hand and not the individual and I think you will find the thread will make easier reading, be that with both positive and negative comment.

Ian

Ian/bull
What is your policy on a person cutting and pasting the same material over and over again with the purpose of making the thread unreadable. We had a good thread set up on your competitors website however a certain person cut and pasted the same material possibly over 500 times. Freely admitted he was just there for the annoyance factor?

If you would like an insite into who I am talkign about go to ADV and type int he epic "hay" you will see how many people we are talking about and how big the problem is.

Pete

morning all,as i am new to this investing game,is this a good company to invest in it look very good and who is this Mike and IanT chaps....

Hope you all have a good day..

Mega...

peteark,

I have made my position clear with my previous post - this thread (along with all threads on MoneyAM) will be monitored.

Now can we please return to the topic at hand namely Envesta.


Ian

sounds good to me Ian.......thanks

Mega Bucks, as to whether Envesta is a good investment, obviously we think so! We are pretty confident in the new product being a success and as of March, the announcement by Kevin Jauncey was that things were in line with previous statements (which were good!)

At the moment, that is all we have to go on until the next set of results are published which could be anytime from next month on!

As a longterm investment, I personally believe it will do very well, but as usual, DYOR!!!!!!!!

Ian my final word on the subject honest...lol.....is this...

This is not a witch hunt or a gang of rampers not wanting to hear the negative side of the company, infact the opposite. We have here a guy called insider, he is a deramper of EVS. He is welcome to comment how bad the company is, becuase he is viewed by all of us as being acceptable. However when a person cuts and pastes the same material with the only intention of making the thread unreadble then we viewed this as unacceptable, and hence our migration from ADV. All we want is a proper thread about Envesta, most people here actually work for the company.

I hope you understand my feelings, and I hope I do not have to bother you again on this matter.

Pete

advans,thank you for your info !!!

I can confirm that the post from IanT at MoneyAM is genuine in case anyone is wondering!!

It will be interesting to see how things go from now on, now the click through is up and running. Typical I have waited for 6 weeks and now its working I am off on holiday. At least it will give me an idea of where I want to go with my own personal online marketing.

Pete

Peteark


How did you get your click through up and running, I thought that this was not going to happen until the 2nd phase dealer launch, and as yet I have not been notified of this

james