Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Cable is a menace. Just look at the way he was saying he would stop Murdoch getting control of Sky, when he should have been independent. He has also been caught secretly texting Milliband only a week ago. He is clearly a man of poor judgement and a loose canon. The rank and file of the Conservative party would not tolerate him. He fails to realise that he signed up to a coalition. His party is the junior party in that coalition. No wonder he is a member of "the silly party" as Max Hastings called them.

In Karachi, where two people were killed, including a police officer, rioters torched police vans, looted shops and even attacked the port city's fire brigade.

And for a second day running in the normally sedate capital of Islamabad violence was concentrated in front of the five-star Serena hotel, which is on a road that leads to the fenced entrance of the diplomatic quarter where the US embassy is located.

While police succeeded in holding back the several thousand strong crowd they also battled to prevent more protesters entering the city from the south.
they are rioting but it only so they steal it as nothing to do with the film .
they are just thiefs

Cable was a Liberal at university, then switched to Labour. He failed to get selelected and elected. He then joined the new SDP. He then was absorbed into the combined party and that is where he remains. Looks like an opportunist who was desperate get elected somwhow. He is far too left wing to be of any use to anyone.

It makes no difference that Cable has an Economics background as he seems to have a left wing view and is probably a Keynsian that believes in a recession that you should pay people to dig holes and then just fill them in.

Nothing new from you in all that Right Wing "Con" Party/Government rhetoric H/S. Just because someone expressed things regarding Murdoch before Murdoch became a national scandal and that involved some at the very top in the "Con" Government, it's no wonder that you don't like him.

And what about "But Campbell is part of the "Legal Profession Mafia" that has infiltrated the 3 major parties at least,"?

as we all well know to be a MP you have to be dishonest a good liar and a crook and a thief that about sums them up .and will do anything to get power .the house of commons are worse than 90% in prison.
I am a tory but will never vote for these liars again voteUKIP.

Cable needs to realize that he has no influence and is just tolerated as an unfortunate trick of fate as is the rest of his party. Had the election been slightly different in its outcome we would have more right wing policies with some real cuts. The way that Germany became the dominant force in Europe was that the unions agreed to years of lower wages which made the country competitive. Labour needs to realise that they lost the election badly and Liberals lost it even worse

“Just look at the way he was saying he would stop Murdoch getting control of Sky, when he should have been independent.”

(Corrupt.)

It is a pity that Cameron and the Hunt didn’t say the same thing.

I think Vince’s misplaced words did help and give further exposure and solve the problems for Labour by getting rid of Murdock as the tory party’s mouthpiece.
(Well placed words.)

If Cameron had had any veracity he wouldn’t have been holding hands with Rebecca and pretending he was in the dark.

As far as Vince Able being said to be “left wing” is concerned, when a old fashioned tory eccentric right winger writes that, the majority of people would consider it a complement and praise of him.

As far filling in “holes” are concerned, it would seem better to subsidise the pay somebody for a short while to repair the road or infrastructure than have them doing nothing on the dole. (Or looking up the skills of breaking and entering, to keeping them busy.)

Have a weekend.


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Think I must have missed something out there!

Thank you for agreeing with me H/S.

LONDON — David Cameron said his chief whip Andrew Mitchell had been "wrong" and "inappropriate" after he reportedly branded Downing Street police officers "plebs" during a foul-mothed tirade.

if he had been a bnp or a ukip MP cameron would be saying he should be charged and put him in prison . this is fact not fiction it just about sums cameron up as a dishonest pm

Hi Haystack,
Just back from 2 week hols and been reading your Vince Cable posts and agree with you 100%.
I can't see who you are arguing against due to squelch button, but I can guess!
I also can't see how anyone can defend a Business Secretary who has done more to actually harm business in this country than any who have held the position before him.
I have heard all the pro Cable arguments of how he has a good business brain and is a very clever person etc, etc, its just a pity he does not put either to a more positive use.
To sum up Vince Cable in just one word, Delboy's Plonker' comes to mind.
The sooner he is removed from his position the better, but Cameron is too frightened to do so.
I doubt very much that he, Cable could as some say, cause more problems from the back benches.

Hays,

Which period of German economic history are you writing about.

I think there are different reasons for the post WW2 "recovery" than the one you may be trying to present!

Different models.

Not post war, just the period of the last 20 years.

Greek,

In your previous occupation, I do hope you collected evidence for possible prosecutions in a better manner, or approach than you seem to do, before making observations on the postings of others.

Or, perhaps, you were as omniscient then, as it is obvious that you are now.

Further evidence that when the truth is mentioned some people on the more extreme side of life (the Right) start to name call, How pathetic.

Hays,

Do you mean the period after the merger of East and West Germany and the economic chaos that working to a more equitable united Germany led to.

(Again, look at working relations, social relationships and state of their industries. The west German industry hadn't been decimated by good old fashion tory Thatcherite ideology.)

Probably they've gone off to sulk Fred -):

Good to see Andrew Mitchell is doing his best to help the opposition.

Mind I can imagine the well chosen words Cameron is advising him with.

Can see the next lot of tory banners.

Andrew Mitchell row: Police leader attacks Cameron

John Tully John Tully says police officers feel that the government dislikes the police service


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-19683692


Pressure on police row minister
Chief whip apologises to police
PM switches Mitchell in reshuffle

A police union leader has attacked David Cameron as the row continues over Chief Whip Andrew Mitchell's words to an officer.

The prime minister's tribute to the two police officers killed in Manchester was "hollow words", Metropolitan Police Federation chairman John Tully said.

Mr Tully said this was the opinion of "many of my colleagues".

A Downing Street source said the PM had made it clear "that he has the greatest respect for the police."

Number 10 has not yet commented on Mr Tully's words.

The old tories were supposed to be the party of Law and Order.

(With for a few back handers down the Lodge.)

Are there still Masonic Police and tory Clubs?