Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Nothing new from you in all that Right Wing "Con" Party/Government rhetoric H/S. Just because someone expressed things regarding Murdoch before Murdoch became a national scandal and that involved some at the very top in the "Con" Government, it's no wonder that you don't like him.

And what about "But Campbell is part of the "Legal Profession Mafia" that has infiltrated the 3 major parties at least,"?

as we all well know to be a MP you have to be dishonest a good liar and a crook and a thief that about sums them up .and will do anything to get power .the house of commons are worse than 90% in prison.
I am a tory but will never vote for these liars again voteUKIP.

Cable needs to realize that he has no influence and is just tolerated as an unfortunate trick of fate as is the rest of his party. Had the election been slightly different in its outcome we would have more right wing policies with some real cuts. The way that Germany became the dominant force in Europe was that the unions agreed to years of lower wages which made the country competitive. Labour needs to realise that they lost the election badly and Liberals lost it even worse

“Just look at the way he was saying he would stop Murdoch getting control of Sky, when he should have been independent.”

(Corrupt.)

It is a pity that Cameron and the Hunt didn’t say the same thing.

I think Vince’s misplaced words did help and give further exposure and solve the problems for Labour by getting rid of Murdock as the tory party’s mouthpiece.
(Well placed words.)

If Cameron had had any veracity he wouldn’t have been holding hands with Rebecca and pretending he was in the dark.

As far as Vince Able being said to be “left wing” is concerned, when a old fashioned tory eccentric right winger writes that, the majority of people would consider it a complement and praise of him.

As far filling in “holes” are concerned, it would seem better to subsidise the pay somebody for a short while to repair the road or infrastructure than have them doing nothing on the dole. (Or looking up the skills of breaking and entering, to keeping them busy.)

Have a weekend.


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Think I must have missed something out there!

Thank you for agreeing with me H/S.

LONDON — David Cameron said his chief whip Andrew Mitchell had been "wrong" and "inappropriate" after he reportedly branded Downing Street police officers "plebs" during a foul-mothed tirade.

if he had been a bnp or a ukip MP cameron would be saying he should be charged and put him in prison . this is fact not fiction it just about sums cameron up as a dishonest pm

Hi Haystack,
Just back from 2 week hols and been reading your Vince Cable posts and agree with you 100%.
I can't see who you are arguing against due to squelch button, but I can guess!
I also can't see how anyone can defend a Business Secretary who has done more to actually harm business in this country than any who have held the position before him.
I have heard all the pro Cable arguments of how he has a good business brain and is a very clever person etc, etc, its just a pity he does not put either to a more positive use.
To sum up Vince Cable in just one word, Delboy's Plonker' comes to mind.
The sooner he is removed from his position the better, but Cameron is too frightened to do so.
I doubt very much that he, Cable could as some say, cause more problems from the back benches.

Hays,

Which period of German economic history are you writing about.

I think there are different reasons for the post WW2 "recovery" than the one you may be trying to present!

Different models.

Not post war, just the period of the last 20 years.

Greek,

In your previous occupation, I do hope you collected evidence for possible prosecutions in a better manner, or approach than you seem to do, before making observations on the postings of others.

Or, perhaps, you were as omniscient then, as it is obvious that you are now.

Further evidence that when the truth is mentioned some people on the more extreme side of life (the Right) start to name call, How pathetic.

Hays,

Do you mean the period after the merger of East and West Germany and the economic chaos that working to a more equitable united Germany led to.

(Again, look at working relations, social relationships and state of their industries. The west German industry hadn't been decimated by good old fashion tory Thatcherite ideology.)

Probably they've gone off to sulk Fred -):

Good to see Andrew Mitchell is doing his best to help the opposition.

Mind I can imagine the well chosen words Cameron is advising him with.

Can see the next lot of tory banners.

Andrew Mitchell row: Police leader attacks Cameron

John Tully John Tully says police officers feel that the government dislikes the police service


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-19683692


Pressure on police row minister
Chief whip apologises to police
PM switches Mitchell in reshuffle

A police union leader has attacked David Cameron as the row continues over Chief Whip Andrew Mitchell's words to an officer.

The prime minister's tribute to the two police officers killed in Manchester was "hollow words", Metropolitan Police Federation chairman John Tully said.

Mr Tully said this was the opinion of "many of my colleagues".

A Downing Street source said the PM had made it clear "that he has the greatest respect for the police."

Number 10 has not yet commented on Mr Tully's words.

The old tories were supposed to be the party of Law and Order.

(With for a few back handers down the Lodge.)

Are there still Masonic Police and tory Clubs?

are these these the same police officers that where at hillsbough

TANK - Don't confuse Police Officers on duty at Hillsborough that day, with the senior officers in charge. Two police woman were murdered this week, Camerons commiseration means jack shit, intended cuts to the Police Service will come at a heavy price for all of us.

I think the Mitchell "affair" is overcooked a little and there are very few on this thread who have not used or do use expletives , profanities, or curses etc. in private conversations. Whether it is in banter or carrying a degree of anger.

I think the public is getting a little to "prissy". But it points of Mitchell lack judgement and he should have known the police "union" and other political opponents would jump on him. Realising that his apology seems "brash" and leaves him open to the charge that he is not fit for purpose.


Another problem for the tories, is that Mitchell actions and "abuse" personifies, or characterises the attitude and conceit of the present hierarchy and leadership their party.

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He was even clumsier than Clegg.




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I was listening to a LBC phone in and a woman rang to say that her husband was a policeman at the palace of Westminster. She said that most MPs were very rude with the new ones the worst. The second worst were the Labour MPs who had a habit of clicking their fingers at an individual officer if they wanted to speak to them. It all seems to be a lot of fuss about nothing. People are getting far too sensitive. A a response to the islamic nonsense of the last few days we should deluge the media, youtube, magazines etc with anti mohammed comments and images to such an extent that there would be no target and no one to blame. It should continue on a dailly basis for years to come. when the extremists have become desensitized it might then be stopped.