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stanelco .......a new thread (SEO)     

bosley - 20 Feb 2004 09:34

Chart.aspx?Provider=EODIntra&Code=SEO&SiChart.aspx?Provider=EODIntra&Code=SEO&Si

for more information about stanelco click on the links.

driver's research page link
http://www.moneyam.com/InvestorsRoom/posts.php?tid=7681#lastread
website link
http://www.stanelco.co.uk/index.htm


garyble - 04 Aug 2006 12:26 - 18488 of 27111

Was the placing of ~45m shares @ 8.1p not the last placing to raise ~3.5m?

Mad Pad - 04 Aug 2006 12:27 - 18489 of 27111

Garyble ,or deliberatly misleading, depends how you look at it.

Haystack - 04 Aug 2006 12:29 - 18490 of 27111

The master
That is just a news itemfrom 2 June - old news

2nd June 2006

The Board of Stanelco plc, the radio frequency (RF) applications group, is
pleased to announce the conditional placing by Teather & Greenwood of 46,939,939
ordinary shares ('New Ordinary Shares') at a price of 8.1p per share to raise
approximately GBP 3.8 million (approximately GBP 3.7 million after expenses).

Oilywag - 04 Aug 2006 12:31 - 18491 of 27111

I think that if they issued shares at 8.1p today the share price would have at least got close to the price in trading and that would then be the support level price for .. well at least a few days.

And, if it were true, I thnik that would also herald an imminent contract announcement.

Needless to say, I think it is a load of BS.

The oily one

TheMaster - 04 Aug 2006 12:38 - 18492 of 27111

Well if it was the June issue, then they have the money to last until any orders come in, so not going bust. Should the ADSA exclusive period ended by now, they could be open for the other UK supermarkets to use their products.

garyble - 04 Aug 2006 12:54 - 18493 of 27111

http://www.tescocorporate.com/page.aspx?pointerid=B28353083D134DC4B52B8C88846D3258

Extract from Tesco's website:

"All Tesco carrier bags will be degradable by the end of September 2006"

hewittalan6 - 04 Aug 2006 12:56 - 18494 of 27111

There is a world of difference between degradable and biodegradable.
We have discussed this one before and degradable has nothing to do with SEO.
Alan

TheMaster - 04 Aug 2006 13:04 - 18495 of 27111

Knowing Tesco's they would use the cheaper bags (degradable), but M&S/Waitrose may take the biodegradable option.

garyble - 04 Aug 2006 13:06 - 18496 of 27111

Alan,

For our sake, they very well may be using the term loosely!

hewittalan6 - 04 Aug 2006 13:12 - 18497 of 27111

Its a very loose term.
The word degradable can be made to whore itself on the streets in the mouth of a supermarkets PR dept.
Degradable means something which will degrade. it says nothing about how it degrades (Acid, nuclear bombs to destruct it) or what it degrades into (poisonous waste, useless slime, traffic wardens).
Bio-degradable apparantly means it will break down on its own into biological components.
Its probably a lot more complicated than that, but its still a word that you can put your own interpretation on.
Alan

oblomov - 04 Aug 2006 13:24 - 18498 of 27111

Degradable basically means it will break down into smaller pieces - the smaller pieces are then left to blow around the planet for hundreds of years.

Bio-degradable items completely disappear. Tesco's are very short sighted to follow that degradable rather than bio-degradable route, leaving themselves open to attack by supermarkets who have taken the bio-degradable route (hopefully ASDA).

Sharesure - 04 Aug 2006 13:36 - 18499 of 27111

For what it is worth I have heard that there is a widescale LSE inquiry currently being conducted into the activities of one or more MM's for manipulating sp's to cause volatility - encouraging shorting and denigrating. They would do well to look at SEO in particular on that one.

garyble - 04 Aug 2006 13:40 - 18500 of 27111

Oblo,

As per posts on the subject many moons ago, it could be that they are using the term loosely, not knowing that it would be that important to certain SEO investors! when the supplier is revealed, we'll know for sure!

Oilywag - 04 Aug 2006 13:44 - 18501 of 27111

Hi Sharesure

Don't know whether you have seen my post number 18420 on page 921 to the SEO board.

If you have and are available, and we get an invitiation to meet with a couple of directors in Southampton, would you be interested in accompanying myself and tonyrelaxes on such an excursion? If you recall we all met at the AGM.

The oily one

garyble - 04 Aug 2006 13:45 - 18502 of 27111

Aware I'm doing a bit of a PM1 but.....

http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Publications/2005/08/1993259/33039

Extract:

"Further Environmental Life Cycle Information on the Various Bag Alternatives

Production and Disposal


In reality, the majority of lightweight plastic carrier bags, including the biodegradable variants, will be sent to landfill where they will be buried under predominantly anaerobic conditions.

In the case of starch-based biodegradable lightweight plastic carrier bags, they will take a long time to decompose if they are buried under two metres or more. Under such circumstances, they will give rise to methane instead of carbon dioxide, which is 23 times more potent for global warming 10 (therefore negating the carbon neutral status of the plant-based raw material). They may not even decompose significantly if the necessary microbes are absent due to the anaerobic conditions within the landfill. It should be noted that Scotland and the UK currently uses very few such starch-based biodegradable bags.

Likewise, the plastic ( HDPE) with metal degradant additive bags have a slower rate of degradation when in a landfill rather than in the ideal conditions. In a landfill, they may take 1-5 years 11 to decompose (or even not at all due to lack of light and oxygen) [EuroCommerce, RMIT]. These kind of degradable bags are used in the UK by the Co-operative Group and Somerfield. It has been estimated that conventional HDPE bags take anywhere between 450 and 1,000 years to decompose [ MCS 2005]; thus, within a century-long timescale, they can basically be seen as inert material [ DEH].

Ethene, the monomer used to manufacture polyethene, is produced as a by-product of crude oil refining ('cracking') in the manufacture of vehicle fuels. Its production will not therefore drop. The resource argument would be that the ethene no longer wanted for polyethene bag manufacture could be used as a chemical feedstock for other uses.
"

oblomov - 04 Aug 2006 13:51 - 18503 of 27111

Thats true, gary.

automatic - 04 Aug 2006 13:53 - 18504 of 27111

Sharesure,
i do you are correct about the LSE looking into the activity of the MMs,3000000 more buys than sells yesterday SP didn't make 0.50, today just one eg SP 4-95 an AT of 77 price drops 4-93 another share they could look at is DGO

aldwickk - 04 Aug 2006 14:17 - 18505 of 27111

If there is a LSE inquiry , they should look at EEL.

hewittalan6 - 04 Aug 2006 14:34 - 18506 of 27111

Gary,
just reading your post. Its actually quite negative.
What it is saying is that unless we create the right conditions for bio-degradable plastic to decompose, we are no better off than with conventional plastics.
I mentioned a few weeks ago that Asda had concerns over the green-ness of Starpol, but I knew nothing of this last bit. Perhaps they did know something and are questioning what the point is unless they can provide follow up composting facilities.
Alan

garyble - 04 Aug 2006 14:49 - 18507 of 27111

Yes Alan,

It is negative with regard to bio-plastics as it is seen as an additional material due to the fact that the cracking process will still produce the same volume of PE material which will have to go to some other use. So even though the production of bio-plastics is less harmfull on a direct comparison pound-for-pound, in their framework it simply adds to the environmental burden.

IF however, fuel production were to deminish, the case for improves.

That said, the production of paper items appears to be the most damaging, but considerably more beneficial with regard to waste.

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