LEEWINK
- 28 Mar 2004 15:45
NML is due its interrim results now, last year it was the 28th of this month.
They are setting up a new site to explore/research/analyse and all the equipment to do this should be on site now, and drilling should start soon, all this extra news should be covered in the interims.
does anyone have any further positive views on this company ??
Anomalous1
- 23 Jan 2006 08:41
- 1860 of 1909
Takahe's gullibility gives new limits to the saying - "to be taken in".
I've been reading the posts on the ADVFN threads and others and it is quite clear (to me) that the bad information that Shane does not want to release IMO, is that they did lose the C9 license when they upset Endiama.
My interpretation of the Senator's statement (and as a politician, he is using spin) is that he did not go to Angola as was previously stated (and planned) by Shane, because there was no point. C9 had gone and the only hope for NML was to get the reversal into Kassai.
This would then allow them to consolidate the shares - dilute out the existing PI shareholders and leave the directors as the only main beneficiaries. Then the 'mystery' seller(s) could then drip feed the billion placing shares (now 10m or 1m or thereabouts) into the market to collect a premium. These shares would be worth 80 to 90p (or therebaouts) and would be able to take more dilutions at 50p, to enhance the 'mystery' seller(s) ability to extract the premium from gullible Private Investors.
All this talk of RTZ is rubbish. It is mere speculation by the desperate PIs. I was informed that all 4 majors turned down NML over C9. None of them wanted anything to do with them, because of their lack of track record and poor management of the project. Like Wendy, they identified that the company was being used as a vehicle to extract profit from the Private Investor and not mine it from the ground. NML had the perfect opportunity to make a fortune from the alluvials, but they were far too greedy. They decided to ignore the basics, to establish your reputation by bringing in the value project to prove that they had what it takes and instead they gambled all on the main chance and lost.
Wendy has accepted that the truth is that this company did not have the people with the skills needed to achieve the goal. They were quite happy to make all the right noises, but not able to carry them off.
Both Andy and myself identified this last year. For Andy it was meeting the people and not believing them capable of the task. For me it was when they lied to me over the phone, followed by the AFX before the meeting. We've been warning people ever since to try and help them get their money back with as little loss as possible.
There was a time that it seemed that I would be proved wrong, that the company might just be about to generate the revenue - after they made the mine start announcement. But sadly, it appears that they were misleading the market and doing something else.
Now they would have you believe - without actually saying it, that they have an agreement with RTZ to develop any of the kimberlites they discover near Huambo. If this area had been so good, then RTZ or any of the majors would have dived into bed with the license holders years ago. The only 'mines' that they are likely to develop are the anti-personnel variety. The sort that blows up.
I agree with ianwc, that it would take more than a miracle for them to find a Nomad before 6 February. The majority of Nomads are now well aware of the 'baggage' that NML will bring. Sure the company might have a new identity as Kassai and be able to find and fool a whole new load of shareholders, but the fact is that there are people out there, who will remember what they were called and keep informing any potential new investors what they are getting themselves into.
Let's face it, this company has as much chance of staying listed on the AIM market, as I have of becoming the next CEO of De Beers!
If you want to make a fool of yourself by accepting the tripe that they are feeding you, then you have only yourself to blame for enticing others (including your family) to invest in a dog such as NML and then lose nearly everything. And don't give that 'outrage' at bringing your family into the discussion, because you were only too willing to mention that you had purchased shares for them and even that the family were starting to question why their investment had not paid off by now.
So sad, because if you had been willing to listen to an alternative opinion, you could have come away with a valuable lesson learnt and at least some money. Instead, you are dedicated to the last, willing to believe anything they tell you, so long as they can promise you there is profit at the end of it.
takahe
- 29 Jan 2006 16:35
- 1861 of 1909
I haven't logged on here for a while. I see Anom is still trying to make out that he knows what is happening about NML. Well, unless he has 'insider information' as per 'All this talk of RTZ is rubbish. It is mere speculation by the desperate PIs. I was informed that all 4 majors turned down NML over C9' ....which sounds like nonsense to me...then he is just giving out with his usual rubbish. With regard to C9 Senator Johnston and Shane Healy both assured Fugu that C9 was still on the agenda , so who Anom thinks he is kidding, I don't know. He should be shot for his misinformation to the AFD shareholders for all the negative misinformation he has produced there over the last few months. I notice someone on that thread who is very irate at his attempts to put people off AFD ..and he is still doing it, even with the share moving on to 80p! What is his motive...who knows?
Hopefully since he considers there is no chance of NML relisting, he might go away when it does. Anom is a sour, sour person who must be right. I notice him pathetically trying to use Wendy and Ianwc to agree with him. If I told you the holding Ianwc has in NML, Anom, you'd be very surprised...much more than mine.
On a positive note, Healy is back to his desk tomorrow, having arrived back in London on Friday after the AGM last Monday. I understand from the PR people that the new broker is found and the shares will be unsuspended soon. The new broker has had to do due diligence on the Kassai business etc. I don't know when there will be news of that , but the shares have to relist by Feb 6th.
NML changed to Daniel Stewart because they were new and they thought that they would be 'hungry' and do a good job for them. It would seem that they have not. I am not , obviously, allowed to know who the new broker is..but it is someone in London, not Outer Mongolia!
Anom seems to think I am very gullible...I'm not...I am one of the most suspicious people on earth and I am very suspicious of his motives here. I am shocked, I may say, at his blatant lies. As for my family holdings in NML, I don't think anyone here is probably interested and it is completely irrelevant.
You may imply that the Company are lying to me, Anom...but you sure as hell are lying to the people here...and you have been over various issues. You should be ashamed of yourself but I don't think you have normal feelings. All part of the same syndrome...
stockdog
- 29 Jan 2006 18:28
- 1862 of 1909
Takahe - all very interesting for those invested in Anom - but we're not, we're invested in NML and your post contains scant reference to any tangible news on this company.
Until they relist or do not relist, I have marked their value down to zero in my portfolio. Whatever may be said about them, the results are not what one expects from a properly run company, no matter what extenuating circumstances may prevail - the proof is there for all to see - miserable SP and now suspended. When did that ever indicate a company worth investing in.
I'm not complaining - it's part of the game, and I have not lost too much being well diversified, but you are becoming a little biased in your repeated assertions that Anom's negative news is not proven. You have no more positive news than Anom has negative news. But in a decidedly leaky market information system where I do not happen to be standing under one of the drips, I have to go on what the SP and RNS tell me - on the laws of proability, NML are rubbish for now. That's not a statement of fact, it's a statement of judgement - right or wrong that's the basis on which I am making decisions in my life as regards NML until some certain new information changes it.
sd
takahe
- 29 Jan 2006 18:39
- 1863 of 1909
hi stockdog...I have posted what I can. ie. at the moment, all I know is that GM says they have a new broker. Why should I NOT believe that?
I quote from an email 'Shane is due back in the country on Friday but will be out of action until Monday. In the meantime everything with regard to new broker and getting the shares un-suspended, I believe, is all going to plan. '
I am not biased ...just redressing what Anom says which is NOT true, unless the chairman of the company is lying. I know Fugu who phoned Healy and Johnston and I don't think it is too biased to believe them, rather than Anomalous.They asked for the suspension. I agree that the way they have behaved has been bizarre. We are all waiting for information.
I have a diverse portfolio,too and my trading is quite successful. These have certainly been a longer haul than I imagined when I bought them.
In future, I will not bother to post anything on here. Believe Anom if you want.We'll soon see who is correct.
share trader
- 29 Jan 2006 20:10
- 1864 of 1909
takahe
You seem to have an unhealthy obsession with what anom posts.
stockdog is correct in his assertions above, and if you think the company has not lied to it's shareholders, fine, that's your perogative. Quite a few others seem to think otherwise, and that's their right too.
it does seem that anom and the other bears have in fact called this one correctly for some time now, and to have held a share such as nml as the price has fallen suggests a lack of a proper trading strategy in my view..
I think your fixation with anom stems from him calling it right
there are only two rules for investing,
rule 1, don't lose money,
rule 2, see rule 1! (Warren Buffet)
good luck with nml, I fear you are going to need it, but WDIK?
takahe
- 30 Jan 2006 10:42
- 1865 of 1909
share trader...only because I have seen him at work with AFD with the same sort of spin. I post what I am told by the company people....I don't invent scenarios of my own. I currently hold 12 shares, most of which are doing just fine.
The bears HAVE been correct so far, in respect of the share price...but I object to people posting false information.
stockdog
- 03 Feb 2006 05:12
- 1866 of 1909
If NML don't find a new NOMAD by today or Momnday, then they will be de-listed.
Anyone know anything? Well, there'll be an RNS one way of another I guess.
sd
Andy
- 03 Feb 2006 17:23
- 1867 of 1909
Stockdog,
Well there hasn't been one today, so it must be Monday!
On another BB they are now saying Shane is at the LSE requesting an extention, so if that is granted, (which I expect it will be), they will have more time, so even longer for the shareholders to wait, IMO.
takahe
- 03 Feb 2006 17:28
- 1868 of 1909
I had a ring just now from Philip Cain (Kane?) at the LSE in answer to my enquiry this morning. He said that the standard procedure is that a company has a month to get a new adviser and admission to trading is cancelled after that if a new adviser is not found. HOWEVER, he did say that there is some leeway (he did comment that the rule is a bit harsh) and that if a company come to the LSE with a genuine case for some extension, and a genuine desire to stay on AIM , it can be granted an extension, particularly if they do have an interested broker looking at DD for them. Even if they ARE delisted, they can be re-admitted to AIM again, as long as they make their case. They could also go to another market like OFEX.
I hope that helps.
Andy
- 03 Feb 2006 22:55
- 1869 of 1909
takahe,
Well the optimism from the Fugu conversation with the senator seems to have changed somewhat, and, as expected, it is going down to the wire!
Now we have Healy in the LSE pleading for more time, if these reports are true of course.
Let's hope he succeeds!
takahe
- 04 Feb 2006 13:25
- 1870 of 1909
For any interested shareholders remaining: from Fugu...
had a long conversation with the Nomad section of my broker yesterday, and though he was a bit cagey about talking specific cases, he gave some pretty detailed generalities. He felt whatever the provocation, DS resigning without due notice was wrong, as it would be very difficult for NML to find a new Nomad, negotiate terms and have DD done within 30 days, espescially in light of the Kassai deal/ share issue.
He felt that SH was justified in seeking an extension and that it would probably be granted, but was not sure if any extra time would be long enough to complete DD. He also confirmed a problem I had suspected, that NML cannot issue ANY statement until the new Nomad is in place - so the only way we will know if Shane has his extension will be if the listing is still there Wednesday morning! And we won't know for how long...talk about Catch-22...
He was said he had heard of several companies being approached; thought more that one was doing DD; refused to say if his company had been approached or not - muttered something about Chinese walls...
More reassurring was the options he gave should NML delist. I had assumed that delisting was sayonara to my investment, but not necessarily. They could relist on finding a new Nomad, apply to Ofex, go to another exchange altogether (maybe ASX) or arrange a share-only merger with another listed company.
"Rabbit from a hat" may be a good analogy, but we're not dead quite yet.
Andy
- 04 Feb 2006 13:37
- 1871 of 1909
Takahe,
Sad to day that that was just a general conversation with an unrelated broker, not the same as the actual broker that MAY be doing DD on NML, IMO.
These things are easily said when there is no involvement, just like the liberals can make grand promises because they know they won't be elected.
Of course NML can apply to any exchange for a listing, and OFEX may be more suited, as pobably would the TSXV (IMHO) or even the ASX, which is where NML is based afterall!
Next week could well be interesting!
share trader
- 04 Feb 2006 18:12
- 1872 of 1909
takahe,
you only see one side, you believe everything the company and their associates tell you, despite holding throughout what has turned out to be a total fiasco, with massive loss of shareholder value, yet you abuse those posters that called it correctly!!!
Who let you down, the company, or the bb bears??
aimtrader
- 05 Feb 2006 13:06
- 1873 of 1909
takahe,
Well I see you are still here defending the good? (lol!!) name of NML
You are the caped crusader of the boards, defending the faith to your last breath, even when those around you have floundered in their belief in NML.
sadly you seem to be taking this all very personally now, and your posts on advfn yesterday were ridiculous in the extreme, i suggest you take a break from the bb for a day or two, it is clearly getting to you.
you knew nml was high risk when you invested, so no need to attack everyone that is negative, you made the decision to invest, not the people you are now personally attacking.
Please reflect on your current behaviour!!!!
takahe
- 06 Feb 2006 06:17
- 1874 of 1909
aimtrader...I thought that was just your email name...(****). You are not very good at disguising yourself.
'Please reflect on your current behaviour!!!! '...what a joke!
I don't take it personally. It seems that certain people, like your friend Wendy, can say anything they like..without quoting a source..but I can't post information from the LSE which I went to some trouble to obtain. I always quote a source where remotely possible. As for 'attacking everyone who is negative' ..that is nonsense. It is ,however, absolutely the case that I don't like liars, cheats and people who hide behind different names to push their point of view and to disseminate false information!
I am well aware of the high risk of MOST aim stocks. You probably choose the odd bad one yourself...TDM perhaps..
What I find sad is that people who should know better have perpetuated the impression that NML will just go to the wall if they are delisted. Is it odd to post information FROM THE LSE, to the contrary? That is not defending the Company at all...that is just a statement of fact, as opposed to some of the mis-information that is posted here.
Please reflect on your own current behaviour. It is VERY obvious what you are up to... I am just trying to be helpful!!!
It is misleading and inaccurate to give the impression that NML will just disappear..
I would say that your post is much more revealing than mine...lol!!!
Good luck, any holders on here. It has been an unpleasant experience...but unless, I have missed something along the way....I don't see an RNS that NML has gone to the wall...YET! I don't dispute that it could happen!
Off to have a look at the ones that are performing better than this!
stockdog
- 06 Feb 2006 07:56
- 1875 of 1909
takahe
We don't need an RNS - we can see the wall! It's just a question of how hard we'll hit it (or may be we already have) as to whether there is anything to be salvaged from the wreck. NML may not be dead, but it's probably wise to make sure the priest is not planning a trip abroad.
sd
Andy
- 06 Feb 2006 11:09
- 1877 of 1909
Stockdog,
"but it's probably wise to make sure the priest is not planning a trip abroad"
LOL!
Dynamite,
Best way to look at it IMO, anything now is a bonus, and I am more optimistic than most that NML will survive in one shape or form, probably as Anom suggests, with a news name, and maybe on a different exchange.
If the reverse takeover occurs on AIM, then NML will be replaced by Kassai, presumably, and the old regime will be forgotten by some, and then it begins again from the exploration stage.
stockdog
- 06 Feb 2006 11:58
- 1878 of 1909
Di, hi there - hope you're well. Not heard much from you in a while.
I agree - NML is down at zero value in my books, but you never know what might come of it. As you say there are others that make up for it, but I still don't have your killer instinct for when to sell. My new year resolution is to be better at exit strategies. Was it John Templeton who said he'd made a fortune by selling too early!
sd