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FTSE + FTSE 250 - consider trading (FTSE)     

cynic - 20 Oct 2007 12:12

rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.

for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ

for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance

cynic - 01 Oct 2015 08:01 - 18618 of 21973

i sure called that wrong and it just goes to show how markets can defy logic, for we have had yet more weak industrial numbers from china, imf forecasting weaker world economic growth, us employment numbers tomorrow and forthcoming earnings likely to be pretty rough

splat - 01 Oct 2015 08:18 - 18619 of 21973

Perhaps all that is already discounted cynic? After all the Dow has given back some 1,900 points since its peak and the FTSE over 1,000 until today's rise.

cynic - 01 Oct 2015 08:23 - 18620 of 21973

dunno guv :-)
easy to rationalise after the event, but it'll be interesting to see if this rally has any real legs

cynic - 01 Oct 2015 08:38 - 18621 of 21973

in fact, i now note that the chinese numbers were still pretty pissy but above expectations

cynic - 01 Oct 2015 13:04 - 18622 of 21973

glad i didn't get panicked into closing out ...... but then sure as hell wasn't brave enough to add further either!

cynic - 01 Oct 2015 16:37 - 18623 of 21973

looks that my logic was right even if the timing proved to be rubbish

jimmy b - 01 Oct 2015 16:38 - 18624 of 21973

heading back to where you started .

cynic - 01 Oct 2015 17:03 - 18625 of 21973

indeed and fully expect it (ftse) to head lower still
i am also now short dow from 16,197 and have targeted 16,000 or thereabouts to close and probably reverse
at that juncture, the same is likely to apply to ftse

jimmy b - 01 Oct 2015 18:01 - 18626 of 21973

This could affect tomorrow....

(ShareCast News) - The US non-farm payrolls report on Friday will be under the microscope as the Federal Reserve looks for signs of improvement in the labour market before raising interest rates.
The Labor Department report is expected by analysts to show that US employers added 202,000 jobs in September, which would mark a pick-up from the previous month's 173,000. The unemployment rate is projected to remain at 5.1% in September.

cynic - 01 Oct 2015 20:12 - 18627 of 21973

meanwhile, i've been too greedy at least for now .... i should have but did not bank some of my profit

jimmy b - 02 Oct 2015 08:28 - 18628 of 21973

Not good shorts now ,both FTSE and DOW.

cynic - 02 Oct 2015 08:33 - 18629 of 21973

nope :-(

jimmy b - 02 Oct 2015 08:46 - 18630 of 21973

What's the score, do you hang in and hope for the reversal or close .I got stopped out earlier in the week on a long position only for it to bounce back the next day .

cynic - 02 Oct 2015 09:18 - 18631 of 21973

for better or worse, i don't use stops any more as they always seem to be wrongly placed :-)
as i'm "protected" by share longs, i'll stay put and clench my buttocks

jimmy b - 02 Oct 2015 13:36 - 18632 of 21973

Weak employment figures may save you this afternoon .

splat - 02 Oct 2015 13:42 - 18633 of 21973

Interesting!

cynic - 02 Oct 2015 14:30 - 18634 of 21973

had a limit on 1/2 dow long which was easily hit so had a nice 57 point profit there
balance still running along very jollily

ftse is still out of the money, but not by much

jimmy b - 02 Oct 2015 14:37 - 18635 of 21973

Jammy or what ? did you manipulate the US figures . Could be more downhill from here for a while .

cynic - 02 Oct 2015 14:47 - 18636 of 21973

have just cashed in last part of dow for +154
50-odd points off the bottom, but as i was at the gym from 13:00, assuredly no complaints
in fact i see that dow's low was 16,011 which was very close to my original target


a dump by ftse would now finish off quite a reasonable week for me, though i've sure been pretty stupid at times

cynic - 02 Oct 2015 15:21 - 18637 of 21973

as i happily admit, i know bugger all, but certainly DOW still looks to be in a bearish pattern with lower highs and lower lows since august on almost any sensible timescale you care to look at

however, as has been abundantly shown, volatility remains exceptionally scary, so if you can get the rhythm right - or even wrong as i have shown! - there's still good money to be made in either direction
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