Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Couldn't agree more skinny, but you know those occasions when she who must be obeyed says you are coming with me into town to shop,(this is not a request by the way) Costa provides a pleasant sanctuary, going for a beer not an option cause guess who's driving.

lol!

:O)

lads I agree with all that .
and men should not drtink coffee
my doctor who is all a top surgeon .
says it destoys the man water works .its only as big as a wall nut and caffiene
fcuks it up big time.

back to the BBC as you know I have stated for a long time sell it off it is anti life of the uk.

Whatever else Tanker - you are a real ray of sunshine! :-)

I think many shorts positions will have to be closed in the US today.

skinny they are all on about SAV VILE .what about the others there are loads of them
and are being protected . because they are still alive .as I have said many times the uk is a cesspit .
leverson inquirywhat about hundreds of letters from brooks and cameron that have not been included ever one else including murdoch at to show all .it stinks of corruption.

When interviewed in the 1990's by FHM magazine, he was asked which grooming products he used - he replied smarties and haribo.

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Devolution for Scotland.

My only worry is this.

If the yes vote wins the day, will Cameron include them in his foreign aid program!

Mind you the money they already receive, makes my eyes water.

I agree about the anti-British Broadcasting Corporation. You would think that their shareholders were the SNP and the EU. What really opened my eyes was the day after Graeme Mcdowell won the US open. There was a major piece about that but the BBC did not once say that he is British, instead nearly every sentence spoken called him european.

There is already devolution in Scotland; I presume you are talking about Scotland leaving our United Kingdom and becoming a German colony.

Salmond has stated that they will join the EU. It is now EU policy that any new members must join the Euro. Since they will not be able to conform to Euro regulations they will have their budget taken over and cuts made. Don't forget that the Irish Budget was set in Germany and leaked to the German press before the Irish parliament saw it. Any region that can’t set their own budget is not an independent country.

Boris has more powers than the so called Irish parliament (or the Greek and Italian ones) and so it will be for Scotland if they follow Salmon.

Salmond has said that he wants Scotland to remain in a sterling zone and would not use the Euro. The problem with that is that monetary policy for Scotland would still be set by Westminister and the Bank of England.

If they have total home rule or tie fully into the EU, it won't be long before their currency trading will be with the Haggis and Turnip.

Reading TIM's and Greek postings, I understand more and more why many Scots will be happy with devolution plans!

I can also see why many in Europe will be glad to see the back of the UK. Watch the trade barriers go up, if the barmy right wingers and "little nation nationalists" get their wishes.

If the UK are prepared to tear up their "contracts" or "treaties", I am sure many in Europe will be happy to oblige them.

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I would think that Salmond, if the Scots devolve, would consider it a temporary measure to remain in the smaller and smaller Euro-zone.

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Salmond might like to keep the pound sterling but, to do so, he would need an agreement with Westminster. As Haystack has already said, it would be the BoE who would control Scotland's monetary policy. The problem with this is that the BoE are a lender of last resort and it wouldn't be healthy for the Chancellor to be imposing austerity on what's left of the UK and trying to keep our AAA credit rating whilst, at the same time, a bunch of jocks are being allowed to run riot. There's no guarantee that consent from Westminster would be forthcoming.

The alternative is that Salmond still adopts the pound without any agreement with Westminster and 'does a Kosovo'. They've adopted the Euro, although they aren't in the EU and don't get any of the associated benefits of EU membership. The problem for Salmond if he goes that route is that Scotland has a large financial services sector and they would get the raving hump with Salmond because they'd then be prone to bank runs with nowhere to turn for a bailout.

I get the impression that Salmond hasn't really thought the consequences through.

As far as EU membership goes, the consensus seems to be that Scotland's membership of the EU would be automatic as they would be, in effect, a succession of the UK which is already a member. Indeed, Scotland already has its own MEPs. There does, however, seem to be a bit of confusion as to whether or not what remains of the UK could veto Scotland's membership of the EU.

In the event that Scotland had automatic EU membership, there would be no obligation whatsoever to adopt the Euro. If, however, they had to apply separately for EU membership then they would be expected to join the Euro. Theoretically they would join the Euro once their own currency had passed the convergence tests, so I don't really know what they'd do about a currency in the meantime....

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The EU will not let him keep the pound; they state clearly that any country joining the EU must join the Euro.