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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

TANKER - 16 Oct 2012 11:33 - 18676 of 81564

back to the BBC as you know I have stated for a long time sell it off it is anti life of the uk.

skinny - 16 Oct 2012 11:37 - 18677 of 81564

Whatever else Tanker - you are a real ray of sunshine! :-)

ahoj - 16 Oct 2012 12:09 - 18678 of 81564

I think many shorts positions will have to be closed in the US today.

TANKER - 16 Oct 2012 12:19 - 18679 of 81564

skinny they are all on about SAV VILE .what about the others there are loads of them
and are being protected . because they are still alive .as I have said many times the uk is a cesspit .
leverson inquirywhat about hundreds of letters from brooks and cameron that have not been included ever one else including murdoch at to show all .it stinks of corruption.

skinny - 16 Oct 2012 12:25 - 18680 of 81564

When interviewed in the 1990's by FHM magazine, he was asked which grooming products he used - he replied smarties and haribo.

mnamreh - 16 Oct 2012 12:38 - 18681 of 81564

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Fred1new - 16 Oct 2012 12:40 - 18682 of 81564

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greekman - 16 Oct 2012 12:58 - 18683 of 81564

Devolution for Scotland.

My only worry is this.

If the yes vote wins the day, will Cameron include them in his foreign aid program!

Mind you the money they already receive, makes my eyes water.

This_is_me - 16 Oct 2012 15:37 - 18684 of 81564

I agree about the anti-British Broadcasting Corporation. You would think that their shareholders were the SNP and the EU. What really opened my eyes was the day after Graeme Mcdowell won the US open. There was a major piece about that but the BBC did not once say that he is British, instead nearly every sentence spoken called him european.

This_is_me - 16 Oct 2012 15:52 - 18685 of 81564

There is already devolution in Scotland; I presume you are talking about Scotland leaving our United Kingdom and becoming a German colony.

Salmond has stated that they will join the EU. It is now EU policy that any new members must join the Euro. Since they will not be able to conform to Euro regulations they will have their budget taken over and cuts made. Don't forget that the Irish Budget was set in Germany and leaked to the German press before the Irish parliament saw it. Any region that can’t set their own budget is not an independent country.

Boris has more powers than the so called Irish parliament (or the Greek and Italian ones) and so it will be for Scotland if they follow Salmon.

Haystack - 16 Oct 2012 16:12 - 18686 of 81564

Salmond has said that he wants Scotland to remain in a sterling zone and would not use the Euro. The problem with that is that monetary policy for Scotland would still be set by Westminister and the Bank of England.

greekman - 16 Oct 2012 17:21 - 18687 of 81564

If they have total home rule or tie fully into the EU, it won't be long before their currency trading will be with the Haggis and Turnip.

Fred1new - 16 Oct 2012 17:30 - 18688 of 81564

Reading TIM's and Greek postings, I understand more and more why many Scots will be happy with devolution plans!

I can also see why many in Europe will be glad to see the back of the UK. Watch the trade barriers go up, if the barmy right wingers and "little nation nationalists" get their wishes.

If the UK are prepared to tear up their "contracts" or "treaties", I am sure many in Europe will be happy to oblige them.

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I would think that Salmond, if the Scots devolve, would consider it a temporary measure to remain in the smaller and smaller Euro-zone.

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When is Moody's next Bond rating?

hilary - 16 Oct 2012 17:43 - 18689 of 81564

Salmond might like to keep the pound sterling but, to do so, he would need an agreement with Westminster. As Haystack has already said, it would be the BoE who would control Scotland's monetary policy. The problem with this is that the BoE are a lender of last resort and it wouldn't be healthy for the Chancellor to be imposing austerity on what's left of the UK and trying to keep our AAA credit rating whilst, at the same time, a bunch of jocks are being allowed to run riot. There's no guarantee that consent from Westminster would be forthcoming.

The alternative is that Salmond still adopts the pound without any agreement with Westminster and 'does a Kosovo'. They've adopted the Euro, although they aren't in the EU and don't get any of the associated benefits of EU membership. The problem for Salmond if he goes that route is that Scotland has a large financial services sector and they would get the raving hump with Salmond because they'd then be prone to bank runs with nowhere to turn for a bailout.

I get the impression that Salmond hasn't really thought the consequences through.

As far as EU membership goes, the consensus seems to be that Scotland's membership of the EU would be automatic as they would be, in effect, a succession of the UK which is already a member. Indeed, Scotland already has its own MEPs. There does, however, seem to be a bit of confusion as to whether or not what remains of the UK could veto Scotland's membership of the EU.

In the event that Scotland had automatic EU membership, there would be no obligation whatsoever to adopt the Euro. If, however, they had to apply separately for EU membership then they would be expected to join the Euro. Theoretically they would join the Euro once their own currency had passed the convergence tests, so I don't really know what they'd do about a currency in the meantime....

This_is_me - 16 Oct 2012 18:17 - 18691 of 81564

The EU will not let him keep the pound; they state clearly that any country joining the EU must join the Euro.

Chris Carson - 16 Oct 2012 19:13 - 18692 of 81564

One thing I have learned since living in Scotland, is that the Scots hate the English to attempt to try and tell them what to do, understandable. Salmond hasn't got that excuse now, their fate is in their own hands. Also dress it up whichever way, similar to the rest of the United Kingdom the Labour Party even though they were led by a fellow Scot were doomed. Has been sometime since the Conservative Party had any credence north of the border and to vote for them would have been seen as the Tartan Army cheering for England in the World Cup. :O)

Stan - 17 Oct 2012 08:09 - 18693 of 81564

This could be a helpfull site https://www.gov.uk/

TANKER - 17 Oct 2012 08:32 - 18694 of 81564

Starbucks facing boycott over tax: Protest groups threaten to try and close branches over revelations it hasn't paid for three years.
I did post to say we will start a boycott of this greedy vile company

Haystack - 17 Oct 2012 10:17 - 18695 of 81564

Starbucks do exactky what all multinationals do. Ford, Shell,Apple, IBM etc. Companies have always chosen the country that they pay tax in by controlling the cross border price they charge for compnnents and management fees. This is nothing new. Choosing how a company pays tax has been going on since the advent of multinationals. There is very little that can be done about it. If a company such as Starbucks makes say £10m profit then they raise an equivalent management fee for the same amount from another country. Then the company makes no profit in this country. This goes on everywhere and has done for more than 50 years. Other companies do it by selective pricing of parts suchbas engines to make a car.
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