Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

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726ShareFacebookTwitter.Miners' strike policing: MP calls for Orgreave inquiry The so-called Battle of Orgreave saw about 10,000 pickets go head-to-head with about 5,000 police officers from forces across the country on 18 June 1984
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A Nottinghamshire MP is to call for an inquiry into alleged manipulation of evidence by South Yorkshire Police during the miners' strike.

John Mann, Labour MP for Bassetlaw, said claims made in a BBC Inside Out programme relating to the so-called Battle of Orgreave must be examined.

The claims, that junior officers were told what to write in their statements, were "very convincing", said Mr Mann.
was mitchell set up was he telling the truth .
can we believe what a police officer says
hills now the miners .
the police on duty had to put down what he was told by if commanding officer

The Bank of England said Monday it is seeking a chief operating officer to take responsibility for the day-to-day management of the central bank to give senior staff more time to focus on policy. The appointment will be made in 2013. Under reforms to U.K. financial sector regulation, the BOE will take over responsibility for policing banks and the financial system from the Financial Services Authority. The BOE said in a statement the chief operating officer will oversee finance, information technology and human resources at the central bank, giving the governor and deputy governors more time to focus on their policy responsibilities. Also Monday, the BOE said Finance Director Warwick Jones will retire at the end of June next year. Mr. Jones is an executive director of the central bank but isn't involved in setting monetary policy.

"any person that goes out to vote are complete fools"

.. Complete fool here (well not complete but working on it).. Now Tanks, Answer the question please, where are you standing -):

stan would stand for immigration commissioner.
now that would be worth while .
I would enforce the borders and kick out immigrants
in days .

golden dawn are growing big time in greece .
and the greeks are calling for more of them all over greece.
the greeks have awoken
that is good news it might be a good place to move to then.

watch bbc 4 thurs 9pm

Why.. you on there as well?

:O) don't you just love this thread. Fred agreeing with Tanks. Cameron losing the plot what sort of ridiculous idea is that, prisons fined if released prisoners re-offend. Go long ex-cons and short the prisons. You couldn't make this shite up! I need a spliff:O)

So it begins ....

BBC Newsnight editor steps aside over Jimmy Savile claims

The Newsnight editor responsible for dropping a report into claims Sir Jimmy Savile sexually abused people "is stepping aside", the BBC says.

It said the move involving Peter Rippon was happening "with immediate effect".

Mr Rippon has denied he was pressured over his decision and says he dropped the report for editorial reasons.

"stepping aside"?.. Is that the same as "quick stepping aside"? -):

Tanker,

What about the descendants of immigrants?

Would you kick all those out as well?


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Skinny,

It would seem to me that some former members of the Bullingdon Club are still on a little bit of weed when they are making up policies or declarations in PM question times.

The problem is that the weed is stronger and has propensity for stimulating psychosis.


Glad to see that Cameron proposing new tough policies on crime, but seems to evade responsibility for his own and his mates' actions.

He is cringingly dreadful.

But I hear there are moves to replace him with Jacob Rees-Mogg.

(Upright vote catcher for the tory left wing. 8-)

fred any one who commits an affence would be looked at .
go back to last year
aussies kick out a brittish man who as lived there since he was 5 now around 60 .
now back in the uk .
the uk is to soft lets start to run it better ,.

I propose the death penalty should be brought back for people wot kant spell,

cc .

Chris - I think that's Tanker' way of saying :-

police commissioner vote .
if unions wanted to have a vote on these terms they would be declared
void by the government .
how can you vote for people you know nothing about it is totaly illegal.
how do you check if they are honest and no criminal record .
they should be a inquiry into the apointment of any commissioner

Glad to see Moldy is leaving Badger alone.

Is there rat in the arguments or is it just another U-turn in the Warren?

Ceefax service to end after 38 years on BBC

BBC Ceefax, the world's first teletext service, is set for a final bow as the UK's digital switchover is completed.

Olympic champion Dame Mary Peters will turn off the last analogue TV signal in Northern Ireland at 23.30 BST. A series of graphics on Ceefax's front page will mark its 38 years on the BBC.

HOW MOSES GOT THE 10 COMMANDMENTS

God went to the Arabs and said,
'I have Commandments for you that will make your lives
better.'

The Arabs asked, 'What are Commandments?'
And the Lord said, 'They are rules for living.'

'Can you give us an example?'

'Thou shall not kill.'

'Not kill? We're not interested..'

So He went to the Blacks and said, 'I have Commandments.'

The Blacks wanted an example, and the Lord said,
'Honor thy Father and Mother.'

'Father? We don't know who our fathers are.
We're not interested.'

Then He went to the Mexicans and said,
'I have Commandments.'

The Mexicans also wanted an example, and the Lord said 'Thou
shall not steal.'

'Not steal? We're not interested.'

Then He went to the French and said,
'I have Commandments.'

The French too wanted an example and the Lord said, 'Thou
shall not commit adultery.'

'Sacre bleu!!! Not commit adultery? We're not interested.'

Finally, He went to the Jews and said,
'I have Commandments..'

'Commandments?' They said, 'How much are they?'

'They're free.'

'We'll take 10.

Could George Osborne have the last laugh?
Despite the boos, gaffs and incessant criticism from economists, rivals, the media and large sections of the public, are things finally going the chancellor’s way?


....It has been a dismal few months for George Osborne, first the economy slips into a double dip recession for the first time since the 1980s, then he gets booed when presenting a medal at the Paralympics. And the blows keep coming; he was recently blasted for trying to sit in the first class carriage of a train when only paying for economy ticket.

If he’s not getting blamed for economic mismanagement then he is being made the butt of jokes because of his privileged upbringing.

But could George actually have the last laugh? Later this week the first estimate of GDP for the third quarter is expected to show a robust return to growth with economists forecasting a whopping 0.6% increase on the second quarter.

This would drag us out of recession and be far better than our neighbours’ growth rates in Europe and the US.

So what did he get right?

But why the sharp jump in growth and can Osborne take all of the credit? The Jubilee Bank holiday in June is blamed for the recent loss of growth in the economy as people took time off work and either stayed at home or went abroad.

The Office for National Statistics admitted that it is difficult to quantify the impact on growth from scheduled bank holidays, but it has estimated it could have had a negative effect to the tune of 0.4%. Thus, when you strip out the catch-up effect from the Jubilee holiday then growth in the third quarter may be a less impressive 0.2% to 0.3%.



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However, there have been pockets of strength in recent months. The most outstanding was in retail sales in September. We hit the shops with a vengeance last month, managing to spend £6.6 billion a week, which is higher than the £6.5 billion we spent each week in September 2011.

Are consumers more confident in Osborne’s ability to manage the UK economy and is that why they are hitting the shops? Apparently not. The ONS put the jump in sales down to colder weather than normal last month, which sent people scurrying to buy winter clothes early, and a bounce in online sales making up for the dip in August as people watched the Olympics instead of shopping online.

Plenty of work

Sadly for Osborne he has seen his popularity deteriorate even though the UK has been producing jobs at one of its fastest-ever paces. The economy has been producing more than 200,000 jobs every three months this year, which is a stunning pace and contrasts sharply with the US where job growth remains sluggish and the eurozone where unemployment in countries like Spain and Greece is more than one in four.

But unfortunately for Osborne, job creation has not fuelled a feel good effect in the wider economy. Economists are baffled at how the UK can continue to create jobs although the economy has gone into reverse. This has led some people to believe that job losses are waiting in the wings, so those people in employment are still cautious and concerned they may lose them in the future.

Cuts paying off

Osborne’s chief focus since the coalition came to power has been to drastically cut the UK’s debt levels and eradicate the budget deficit. But the deficit has not been coming down, remaining stubornly high and leading the oppostion – among others – to declare “Plan A isn’t working”.

While Osborne has been blamed for focusing too much on debt reduction and not enough on growth, he managed to score a rare goal last week when the UK’s public finances for September followed the tone set by the better economic data eslewhere. The UK budget deficit was revised lower by £7 billion last month, which helps to take the pressure off the chancellor as he builds up to his Autumn Budget statement in December. Maybe Plan A has a chance after all.

But even this data is not all good news for Osborne. The reduction in the deficit was mostly down to luck rather than adept management of the economy on Osborne’s part.

The ONS owned up to a mistake in the public finances for August that caused our borrowing needs to be overstated. It also blamed the mistake on methodological changes, with only £3.4 billion coming from revised budgets from Government departments.

Added to this the Government is still borrowing more than it had previously planned to, which jeopardises its debt-to-GDP target.

Broken rules

So, even with the good news on the deficit, Osborne may still have to “break” his fiscal rules during his pre-Budget report in December as weak growth in the coming years increases the pressure on the public purse as tax revenues are projected to decline.

Osborne needs to ensure he has a thick skin if he does break his own fiscal rules as he will be an easy target for both criticism and ridicule from the opposition and the media. But the real nail in the coffin for Osborne’s credibility will be if the UK loses its triple A credit rating.

So far we have held on to our triple-A credit rating when other countries – including the US and France – have lost theirs. Osborne even promised to maintain it at the risk of the UK’s economic growth.

If we lose our coveted credit rating then Osborne’s tenure at Number 11 Downing Street would start to look very tenuous indeed. But if he we keep it, Osborne may well have the last laugh.