cynic
- 20 Oct 2007 12:12
rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.
for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ
for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance
HARRYCAT
- 02 Nov 2015 09:33
- 18778 of 21973
StockMarketWire.com
UK's manufacturing purchasing managers' index rose to a 16-month high of 55.5 in October, Markit/CIPS data showed, well above forecasts for 51.3 and from 51.5 in September.
cynic
- 02 Nov 2015 09:50
- 18779 of 21973
these markets are almost impossible to read and thus very dangerous indeed
gut feel this morning was that the correct position was to be short, but this has now been turned on its head - not that i would want to now go long either!
overall, i confess i am very gloomy indeed
as i have said before, we deal in the movement of chemicals worldwide, so we are very much at the sharp end ...... business is currently as bad as i have ever known it, though this is exacerbated by the chinese manufacturers dumping equipment on an already sated market, offering "special" deals - eg any payment deferred for 2 years
HARRYCAT
- 02 Nov 2015 09:57
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Bulk chemical industry I know nothing about, but presumably you are at the mercy of Fx fluctations, cyclical demand and warehouses full of unsold inventory? Almost sounds like the oil industry!!!
Stan
- 02 Nov 2015 09:58
- 18781 of 21973
Ah China again eh?
But cheer up Alf, a chance for you to get some work done for a change -):
cynic
- 02 Nov 2015 10:16
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the rally was very short-lived indeed!
Claret Dragon
- 02 Nov 2015 10:18
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I am short both Dow and FTSE 100
cynic
- 02 Nov 2015 10:20
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harry - forex is not greatly influential in that $ is the international currency for most parts .......
as far as i can determine, the market for many petro-chems and similar has collapsed and many refineries find it barely worthwhile to produce as they cannot find buyers for the end product
that's a bit of a simplification, but it'll do
jimmy b
- 02 Nov 2015 10:26
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Start making Uranium cynic and become a Bond Villain .
cynic
- 02 Nov 2015 10:27
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DOW currently sits right on the cusp of an important support/resistance
cynic
- 02 Nov 2015 14:42
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phew!
thank goodness i wasn't tempted to do anything this morning, as for sure i would have gone short
cynic
- 02 Nov 2015 16:29
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FTSE has just about struggled back up through a decent resistance/support (6756), but in general, it still refuses to get its skates on regardless that DOW is romping along once more
i guess it's primarily due to the FTSE components with its weighting in banks and heavy-duty miners, but one can but hope :-)
cynic
- 02 Nov 2015 17:12
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DOW
in theory, we could now be heading back to 17,800 and more, but i admit nervousness after friday's late collapse
cynic
- 03 Nov 2015 15:36
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DOW roaring once again and over 17,860 ...... 18,000 next stop though i have no position here at all ...... lack of nerve!
FTSE remains reluctant to follow suit, which is pretty dull
jimmy b
- 03 Nov 2015 16:52
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Had 3 longs on FTSE today got out and tried to get back in lower ,made a couple of points , now it moves after hours ,wouldn't want to go long now .
cynic
- 03 Nov 2015 17:03
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went long ftse just before close at 6372.5, on the basis that it cannot lag indefinitely while dow keeps heading north
undecided for how long to hold as ftse really does need to breach and hold 6400 and even now we're only at 6395 ...... may cash in before going home, and then watch more casually :-)
cynic
- 03 Nov 2015 17:11
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discretion and valour and all that :-)
cashed in at 6392.8 ...... every little helps as i have heard elsewhere
cynic
- 04 Nov 2015 10:08
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FTSE
in/out this morning for a nice 33 point profit
however, both ftse and (cash) dow have now run out of puff (for now?) and certainly 6440/6450 is proving a stern test for ftse
Stan
- 04 Nov 2015 10:10
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Patience Alf patience.
cynic
- 04 Nov 2015 10:13
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trading the indices is somewhat different from trading stocks
jimmy is rather the "whizz man" in this area, and i'm sure he'ld tell you the same
Stan
- 04 Nov 2015 10:43
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Agreed, but not if trading "in harmony" stocks which can be profitable at the same time.