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Coffee Heaven - A heavenly share for penny punters ? (COH)
overgrowth
- 06 Oct 2003 22:47
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busy day in the Warsaw Underground ! |
Not just another coffee shop chain - this one is a brand leader and is only trading in Eastern/Central Europe (i.e. the countries recently admitted to the EU destined for substantial business growth). The company is creating new outlets at a fair old pace and take a look at their website - these are quality stores in high-profile locations like major airports, railway stations etc. Website: http://www.coffeeheaven.eu.com |
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APRIL 2006 TRADING UPDATE!!! Total Gross Revenues for 12 months to 31st March up 66% to £6.3M (2005: £3.8M) Lots more info. on new markets and stores click here to read the full details. Stores: 43 (up from 32) stores currently trading (Poland: 30 (up from 23), Czech Republic: 6 (Up from 2), Latvia: 7 with a further 5 units under construction including Bulgaria and sites secured in Romania (subject contract). Bulgaria & Romania are seeking to join the EU from January 2007. Sites located in key high street, shopping malls or Airport locations. Company growth target: increase number of units by at least 20 units to some 63 units by 31 March 2007. Aim being to achieve this level of growth within present Cash resources.Cash balances at 31 March 2006 were approximately £2.9M (2005: £0.7M). Debt was nil (2005: £ 2.5M): Nil Debt! Positive EBITDA: For the year ending 31 March 2006, Group EBITDA expected to be firmly positive after charging UK and new market development costs but before exceptional costs relating to the cancellation of bonds (previous Debt). Forecasts: Based on present trading conditions and current exchange rates we anticipate indicative sales of £9.3M for the year to 31 March 2007. This includes indicative sales of £0.4M from Bulgaria, which will be reported but not consolidated. From Richard Worthington (Chairman and Chief Executive): ‘The new financial year has started well. There is no doubt that the significant economic improvement in our markets is feeding through to consumer confidence and spending. The strength of the coffeeheaven brand ensures we are ideally positioned to benefit from our customers' increasing prosperity.’ |
trigger45 - 14 Jul 2007 18:53 - 1878 of 2037
I'm sure it will be fun David. Enjoy your night out and sleep tight.
cynic
- 14 Jul 2007 19:10
- 1879 of 2037
the other side of Shares Mag appears on (their) page 22 headed Risky Plays with a final conclusion of Hold @ 40p with a stop-loss of 33.5p, which is a tad below where PT concluded support might finally come.
Can't be bothered to type up the whole, but the concluding sentence is as follows .....
"The PE is still incredibly high but shares could still be worth a punt as it (COH) is forecast to move into profit this year."
Scarcely a ringing endorsement, and I for one would not be at all tempted to buy especially as sp is dipping sharply in a generally strong market ..... watch out!
Can't be bothered to type up the whole, but the concluding sentence is as follows .....
"The PE is still incredibly high but shares could still be worth a punt as it (COH) is forecast to move into profit this year."
Scarcely a ringing endorsement, and I for one would not be at all tempted to buy especially as sp is dipping sharply in a generally strong market ..... watch out!
David10B
- 14 Jul 2007 20:13
- 1880 of 2037
Well thanks for that cynic, really nice of you to continue your involvement in the on going debate.
Now that all said would you kindly like to tell me what all the fuss has been about, as this is more or less what I said in may and then given the uncertainty over the profits I said let the SP do the talking.
For that---well no need to disturb the lower realms of life, but do you think it was worth all the flying S%%t.
All the COH supporters had to do was simply to acknowledge the fact that other people can be right when they post and that other people add substance to what they say when asked to do, unlike the unashamed rampings of hoping for a pound etc etc.
There have been shamefull calls to have me banned for expressing a view I knew to be correct.
I suggest that Ian looks at the ADIEH and Beemer 2 posts and requests of these posters an explanation for their unfettered rampings, if there is no such explanation then perhaps there are, this time , solid grounds for a review of certain subscriptions.
But I would be happy for them to continue here as long as they have managed to learn something including good manners.
However that said, there is no doubt that their rampings could have cost some happless punter money, and that is serious stuff form which ever point of view one may be coming from
Time for the pub now so I will bid one and all a very good night..
Now that all said would you kindly like to tell me what all the fuss has been about, as this is more or less what I said in may and then given the uncertainty over the profits I said let the SP do the talking.
For that---well no need to disturb the lower realms of life, but do you think it was worth all the flying S%%t.
All the COH supporters had to do was simply to acknowledge the fact that other people can be right when they post and that other people add substance to what they say when asked to do, unlike the unashamed rampings of hoping for a pound etc etc.
There have been shamefull calls to have me banned for expressing a view I knew to be correct.
I suggest that Ian looks at the ADIEH and Beemer 2 posts and requests of these posters an explanation for their unfettered rampings, if there is no such explanation then perhaps there are, this time , solid grounds for a review of certain subscriptions.
But I would be happy for them to continue here as long as they have managed to learn something including good manners.
However that said, there is no doubt that their rampings could have cost some happless punter money, and that is serious stuff form which ever point of view one may be coming from
Time for the pub now so I will bid one and all a very good night..
Ultimate Cynic - 14 Jul 2007 20:39 - 1881 of 2037
cynic - I strongly endorse your post 1863.
Is it at all possible other posters will take note and act accordingly (squelch).
UC.
Is it at all possible other posters will take note and act accordingly (squelch).
UC.
David10B
- 14 Jul 2007 20:41
- 1882 of 2037
Squelch away my friend squelch away I am sure you will learn a lot hearing the things that you only want to hear,
David10B
- 15 Jul 2007 17:56
- 1883 of 2037
I am wagering that COH will undoubtedly fall rather heavily in the morrow.
Should this assumption proven valid. I am left to wonder where AdieH, beemer2 and some others will place their unfounded rampings next, or if they will spare a thought for those supporters of theirs who listened to them bought COH at its highs, going on whay they said here.
I trust things have been learnt out of this debacle, primarily to DYOR and not to listen to a "lot of the c$$p" to be found on BBs.
Most posters have a hidden adgenda all over their own, some are genuine posters with a keen interest in seeing "all," yes all make money out of a greed driven and run ugly system.
To me share picking is fun or should be. I would like to see all have the moderate success that I have...but then thats me.
Adieh and Beener2, please if you must comment, answer the question of why you want to see me banned first please, then perhaps we can all enjoy your true perspective on both shares and life in general.
Have a great week, may it bring you all joy.
Should this assumption proven valid. I am left to wonder where AdieH, beemer2 and some others will place their unfounded rampings next, or if they will spare a thought for those supporters of theirs who listened to them bought COH at its highs, going on whay they said here.
I trust things have been learnt out of this debacle, primarily to DYOR and not to listen to a "lot of the c$$p" to be found on BBs.
Most posters have a hidden adgenda all over their own, some are genuine posters with a keen interest in seeing "all," yes all make money out of a greed driven and run ugly system.
To me share picking is fun or should be. I would like to see all have the moderate success that I have...but then thats me.
Adieh and Beener2, please if you must comment, answer the question of why you want to see me banned first please, then perhaps we can all enjoy your true perspective on both shares and life in general.
Have a great week, may it bring you all joy.
trigger45 - 16 Jul 2007 08:08 - 1884 of 2037
David could well be right that the share price may drop in a few minutes as the market is about to open.
The thing I believe that we are sticking on is that David believes that myself and others everytime we post are trying to draw hapless punters into a share that he feels is not far off worthless.
FWIW, I certainly don't feel COH is a buy at this moment in time and if I was clever enough to read the market I would have sold and bought back in at a cheaper price.
Having said that I feel they are still a long term hold with a view to buying more if appropriate at a later date.
It's all very well people saying squelch David if you don't agree with his thoughts, but if we do that he brings the thread to a holt.
David you have made a big issue of rampers on this thread, I think it is only fit and right if you want to carry on with this view you actually highlight the offending posts.
I still feel in the long term I will be rewarded with more profit than I am currently seeing, time will tell.
The thing I believe that we are sticking on is that David believes that myself and others everytime we post are trying to draw hapless punters into a share that he feels is not far off worthless.
FWIW, I certainly don't feel COH is a buy at this moment in time and if I was clever enough to read the market I would have sold and bought back in at a cheaper price.
Having said that I feel they are still a long term hold with a view to buying more if appropriate at a later date.
It's all very well people saying squelch David if you don't agree with his thoughts, but if we do that he brings the thread to a holt.
David you have made a big issue of rampers on this thread, I think it is only fit and right if you want to carry on with this view you actually highlight the offending posts.
I still feel in the long term I will be rewarded with more profit than I am currently seeing, time will tell.
David10B
- 16 Jul 2007 08:21
- 1885 of 2037
Good morning Trigger well take a look at beemer2's post where he persistently says it will rise and offers no reasoning.---then the price falls.
Hardly contrustive,. A what?
I regret but I don't find this as exciting as you do for the longer term either. The competition cometh in droves.
I believe that the tie up with Snack Attack, knowing as we do its value, is a warning sign that all is not well at COH.
Hardly contrustive,. A what?
I regret but I don't find this as exciting as you do for the longer term either. The competition cometh in droves.
I believe that the tie up with Snack Attack, knowing as we do its value, is a warning sign that all is not well at COH.
AdieH
- 16 Jul 2007 08:29
- 1886 of 2037
It will not bring the thread to a holt trigger it will stop the stuipd irresponsible banter that has been happening. It has been proven over the last six months that you cannot have a debate with this cretin and as IanT will not ban him then the best thing to do is sqelch. We all have our own investment criteria and for me its med/long term looking to utilise the tax breaks, that is my investment ploy and others have different ones my beef with David is that he is unstable, lies and tries to gleem glory on these boards, look at the many he posts on and the amount of posters he has upset. Enough said on the matter and I would suggest the squelch function is appropriate in his case... Regards.
trigger45 - 16 Jul 2007 08:39 - 1887 of 2037
It's all about opininions David. I respect your negative stance on this one although of course I don't agree with it.
What we need to do and I mean all of us is get back to trying to have an adult discussion about COH.
I hope you don't mind me saying, but I think you have made your view on RW pretty clear on this discussion, and we need to move on.
The evidence of your views on him are all here on the board for people to form their own opinion.
You feel very strongly about people posting buy buy buy with no reasoning. I can understand that, but lets make a clean slate, all of us be adult and start a proper discussion from today.
If anyone post a blatent ramp from today, I will actually back you up, but you also need to be fair and accept that if people have money in this one they are going to find any positive information and want to post it for fellow holders.
This has gone on too long now, and I really hope we can discuss this one in an adult fashion in the future.
Also good luck with your investments.
What we need to do and I mean all of us is get back to trying to have an adult discussion about COH.
I hope you don't mind me saying, but I think you have made your view on RW pretty clear on this discussion, and we need to move on.
The evidence of your views on him are all here on the board for people to form their own opinion.
You feel very strongly about people posting buy buy buy with no reasoning. I can understand that, but lets make a clean slate, all of us be adult and start a proper discussion from today.
If anyone post a blatent ramp from today, I will actually back you up, but you also need to be fair and accept that if people have money in this one they are going to find any positive information and want to post it for fellow holders.
This has gone on too long now, and I really hope we can discuss this one in an adult fashion in the future.
Also good luck with your investments.
David10B
- 16 Jul 2007 08:43
- 1888 of 2037
Oh dear sadly old Adieh is wrong again, It was just May when I statrted to post here and been eer so irresponsible I stated to be caeful with COH as it was over priced---and uess what within days it fell.
tut tut tut, I regret being so irresponsible.
Therefore ADIEH where are your lies tat you say I post?
Trut is AdieH you just plain dig sick that COH is not going where you want it to.
In fact 30p is looking good to me.
Please for the sake of the BBs put some honest substance into your obviously frustrated posts,
Sure I have upset posters, propbably will upset a few more as not many like the truth, especially when they hold the shares that I find suspect.
Have a really nice day
tut tut tut, I regret being so irresponsible.
Therefore ADIEH where are your lies tat you say I post?
Trut is AdieH you just plain dig sick that COH is not going where you want it to.
In fact 30p is looking good to me.
Please for the sake of the BBs put some honest substance into your obviously frustrated posts,
Sure I have upset posters, propbably will upset a few more as not many like the truth, especially when they hold the shares that I find suspect.
Have a really nice day
trigger45 - 16 Jul 2007 08:43 - 1889 of 2037
AdieH, All of us are wound up and we need to try and call a truce. If this doesn't work I really do give up on this thread.
David10B
- 16 Jul 2007 08:54
- 1890 of 2037
I resect your post trigger and your cool collected approach, most refreshing from certain itrospective and myopic points of view.
I will go for that and fully concur with your position.
I welcome enlightened and informative posts.
I appreciate people such as you.
I will go for that and fully concur with your position.
I welcome enlightened and informative posts.
I appreciate people such as you.
AdieH
- 16 Jul 2007 09:12
- 1891 of 2037
He will remain on squelch...
David10B
- 16 Jul 2007 09:15
- 1892 of 2037
See what I mean Trigger
A bully boy in retreat.
However I will still comply with your request as my point is---well and truly made.
A bully boy in retreat.
However I will still comply with your request as my point is---well and truly made.
trigger45 - 16 Jul 2007 09:21 - 1893 of 2037
Excellent, thank you.
Ultimate Cynic - 16 Jul 2007 16:51 - 1894 of 2037
Good for you AdieH.
UC.
UC.
AdieH
- 16 Jul 2007 17:05
- 1895 of 2037
Another T trade today... someone is building a stake and trying to keep it under the radar, wonder if its Lehmans again... Be interesting to see if we get another RNS in the future comfirming this... Interesting times ahead if it is them as they could be buying on behalf of someone...
evilratboy - 16 Jul 2007 18:44 - 1896 of 2037
Ive been keeping an eye on this post for a while now. I like CoffeeHeaven as a growth stock and have been reviewing its balance sheet. I would like to ask a favour.
Could someone who has actually been in one of CoffeeHeavens outlets, please describe the experience for me. Is it just a quick sit and coffee type of place or is it one of those eastern european coffee shops where ppl go to sit for an evening , chat , have a coffee and desert etc ..
Also what kind of opening hours in general do they keep in the city locations.
Thanks (and i also have squelch turned on for 10B who drives me nuts)
Could someone who has actually been in one of CoffeeHeavens outlets, please describe the experience for me. Is it just a quick sit and coffee type of place or is it one of those eastern european coffee shops where ppl go to sit for an evening , chat , have a coffee and desert etc ..
Also what kind of opening hours in general do they keep in the city locations.
Thanks (and i also have squelch turned on for 10B who drives me nuts)
AdieH
- 16 Jul 2007 18:48
- 1897 of 2037
You could say its the Starbucks of the East, very much a similar style and menu... It attracts mostly locals but does bring in tourists that want a generic style coffee shop rather than one off's. I have visited two in Prague this year... Tends to have people sitting down and chatting, when I visited it was mainly a younger clientel but wasn't all young people... Hope this helps and welcome to the board...Regards.
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