cynic
- 20 Oct 2007 12:12
rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.
for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ
for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance
spitfire43
- 11 Apr 2008 11:40
- 1886 of 21973
A large reversal on all main indices has just happened. Any ideas !
dealerdear
- 11 Apr 2008 11:47
- 1887 of 21973
GE results miss estimates
spitfire43
- 11 Apr 2008 11:48
- 1888 of 21973
From another thread , General Electric Co earning lower than anticipated ?
required field
- 11 Apr 2008 12:30
- 1889 of 21973
minus 57 now..was plus 38 this morning...crikey !
cynic
- 11 Apr 2008 12:51
- 1890 of 21973
GE figures were horrid .... big Q is whether or not 12450/12500 can be held
bhunt1910
- 11 Apr 2008 12:51
- 1891 of 21973
.........have just started to use spread bets instead of CFD's - thanks to your advice here last week.
So much simpler and I am not getting clobbered with fees either - so thank you to those who pointed me in the right direction.
And with my maiden bet - I caught the downswing in the FTSE and exited almost at the bottom - so am feeling quite chuffed with myself - for a change
Now who can I give it back to ?? MMmmmmm
Falcothou
- 11 Apr 2008 15:03
- 1892 of 21973
Bhunt I know that Etrade do ftse spreadbets for 1 point most others seem to be 2
Falcothou
- 11 Apr 2008 15:38
- 1893 of 21973
Quite a lot of vitriol directed at ECB for leaving rates unchanged in Telegraph, suggesting that they are burying their heads in the sand and may destroy the unity of the eu by trying to control inflation. Their take is that this period of inflation and stellar commodity prices is a temporary spike and will soon resolve, presumably taking oil and miners with it. Also heard yesterday that a lot of mortgages are 30 year fixed in the states, which would infer that those holders would only lose out by US cuts through higher inflation. Not sure when Euro/GBP will reverse but not sure if it is now .8000 is a nice round figure though
required field
- 11 Apr 2008 15:43
- 1894 of 21973
Watchout for pullback time possibly on monday morning again for ftse...dow not doing well !
halifax
- 11 Apr 2008 16:38
- 1895 of 21973
Many British expats that retired to France and Spain must be feeling the pain with the euro so strong.
cynic
- 11 Apr 2008 16:53
- 1896 of 21973
not as badly as those who bought "illegal" houses in Spain and are now having them demolished ...... in our biz, we have an "in" joke that we don't deal with Spain for 10 years and then remember exactly why not!
bhunt1910
- 11 Apr 2008 16:57
- 1897 of 21973
Well I have continued to increase my profits with the exception of 1 mad trade when I got carried away - will bank the rest now and stay on the sidelines now.
Have a good weekend all
halifax
- 11 Apr 2008 17:29
- 1898 of 21973
It occurs to me that with the more or less confirmed slowdown/recession in the US, plus the likelihood of the Chinese economy slowing after the euphoria of the Olympics has evaporated then the commodity boom will fizzle out by the end of 2008. The inflationary forces generated by the massive increase in the price of oil and metals will gradually dissipate by the middle of 2009 as demand falls away. Perhaps the only imponderable is how much unemployment will rise in the meantime.
explosive
- 11 Apr 2008 18:51
- 1899 of 21973
What makes you think demand will fall away in 2009 for oil and metals? Oil and metals also are not the main driving factors behind inflation, both have been on the rise in past years when we have seen a sustainable inflation level and central banks have managed to keep it within set targets. The bakning and finance sectors make up two thirds of the UK's GDP and are by far the biggest forces able to affect inflation.
Inflation currenty seams to be the worlds way of dealing with depression. The US finance capital of the world deal with inflation by printing more money. This combats the problem but creates another by reducing the true value of money. As investors we don't want to see holdings shrink. Two options are available being gold or index linked bonds which both protect value. Gold is the more volitile and has costs associated with holding as to bonds which pay income.
This is why any depression will cause the sell off of equity markets and falls in related Indicies. Agreed unemployment should follow what we're seeing as businesses cut back to try and preserve margins but by then I suspect we'll be at the bottom or coming out of depression.
cynic
- 13 Apr 2008 09:33
- 1900 of 21973
Sunday Times article by David Smith is worth reading ..... IMF reckons US economy to gow only about 0.5% for each of the next 2 years, and advanced economies overall by only 1.3% .... but offset by emerging ecnomies at about 6.6% giving overall world growth of +/-3.75%, being stronger than growth in early 1990s and turn of this century.
with more vile numbers expected from US and B&B in UK etc, can't say it cheers me greatly for the coming week(s), but a crumb nevertheless.
HARRYCAT
- 13 Apr 2008 11:33
- 1901 of 21973
I am pretty much resigned to western economies going in to recession. When the recession comes to an end, then lots of opportunities will arise. That's the way of the world, imo.
I certainly think it's worth looking at emerging economies, South America in particular, which seems to be growing, but in a controlled way. Mining, shipping, oil & telecoms all look to have potential, but tricky to find which companies are listed in the U.K. If anyone happens to know of a website that lists by country, foreign companies listed on the U.K. exchanges, info would be gratefully received.
bhunt1910
- 13 Apr 2008 17:06
- 1902 of 21973
So what do you guys reckon for Monday - further drop in the dow - or a rebound ?
The dow seemed to be tanking quite relentlessly on Friday.
My own view is a drop for the FTSE on Monday - but will it be sustained - not sure?
halifax
- 13 Apr 2008 18:09
- 1903 of 21973
Further news of substantial write offs at Citi Group and Merrill Lynch probably means we are in for a poor first quarter results season and the Dow should be heading sub 12000 in the short term. Ftse tends to follow suit cant think of much chance of any good news short term, unless Brown calls a snap election!!
Falcothou
- 13 Apr 2008 18:12
- 1904 of 21973
Last time ubs and Deutsche bank issued new writedowns the DOW went up 400 points in a day! Ever unpredictable!
spitfire43
- 13 Apr 2008 18:54
- 1905 of 21973
FTSE should gap down at open 1% Monday, as it plays catch up to DOW, but Asia may influence overnight. Not sure if more write offs from Citi Group and Merrill Lynch will effect DOW that much, but more likely if we have more earnings dissapointments like GE and broader economy.
Bitter sweet trading day for me Friday, my morning trending system indicated a long position at 6000, which I correctely ignored and saved myself a large loss. Then just before 11:30 I pressed the sell button at 6012, it failed to register because I placed the points in wrong place, by which time it drifted of a little and being greedy I waited for 6012. Then farted about a bit , made a nice cup of tea, then bang down 65 points and lower.
Will try again Monday.
Good Luck........