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Israeli Gaza conflict?????? (GAZA)     

Fred1new - 06 Jan 2009 19:21

Will this increase or decrease the likelihood of terrorist actions in America, Europe and the rest of the world?

If you were a member of a family murdered in this conflict, would you be seeking revenge?

Should Tzipi Livni and Ehud Olmert, be tried for war crimes if or when this conflict comes to an end?

What will the price of oil be in 4 weeks time?

Haystack - 10 May 2010 19:05 - 1889 of 6906

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Fred1new - 10 May 2010 19:18 - 1890 of 6906

You can see the similarities.

It is not surprising that hardline Israelis and their American supporters are now waging a vicious smear campaign against those human rights organizations that criticize Israel.

Fascinating, makes good print material.

Haystack - 10 May 2010 19:22 - 1891 of 6906

MM - One for you

Fred Steak
Fred Steak is a marinated beef steak sold by Schaub's Meat, Fish and Poultry Market in the Stanford Shopping Center in Palo Alto, California, United States. Its primary characteristic is its very black color - it looks burnt, even when raw. The dark covering forms a crust during a cooking.

The marinade is a secret, though some imitations have been listed on the Internet, here's one:

Ingredients
1-1/2 cup brewed coffee
1 cup red wine
1/2 cup olive oil
1/2 cup molasses
1/3 cup Balsamic vinegar
1/3 cup Tamari sauce
1/3 cup Worcestershire sauce
2 Tbsp chili powder
6 cloves garlic

It was originally called "Marinated Sirloin" in the 1950s or 1960s by Fred Schaub at his Los Gatos, CA meat market. That market closed in 1979, though the 2006 Schaub's brochure claims Fred's son David would be stopped on the street by ex-customers and asked where they could purchase "Fred's Steaks." When David Schaub opened the current market in the Stanford Shopping Center in 1988, he again offered the product. Fred Schaub died in 1996.



Fred SteakFred is a staple of SF Bay Area BBQs, especially summer weekends.


Fred1new - 10 May 2010 19:24 - 1892 of 6906

Hays,

One can see why your natural home is the "Nasty Party".


With your help the Cons. should be back in the wilderness in no time.

Fascinating, Osborne offering bigger baits on electoral reform.

Funny how debased the cons have become and will do anything for power.

Haystack - 10 May 2010 19:40 - 1893 of 6906

You mean like Gordon rushing in at the start of the negociations and offering a referendum on the voting sytem, which he has opposed previously.

Fred1new - 10 May 2010 19:54 - 1894 of 6906

Just a change of opinion.

Cameron should step down as he is a complete failure.

Sharpen the knives.

MightyMicro - 10 May 2010 20:07 - 1895 of 6906

Sorry, Fred, the knives are all still stuck in Gordon Brown's back at the moment. Et tu, Alistair!

No wonder Darling's been doing so well - his moment has come. Revenge must be sweet.

MightyMicro - 10 May 2010 20:17 - 1896 of 6906

Haystack: Thanks for that, I know the Stanford Shopping Center well. There's a nice branch of Tiffany's there as well as the other Palo Alto Apple store. I'll check out Schaub's when I'm out next time. And yes, I'm darn sure I've eaten it at a friend's barbeque.

In The Land of the B - 10 May 2010 20:24 - 1897 of 6906

"Fred1new - 10 May 2010 19:24 - 1892 of 1896
Hays,

One can see why your natural home is the "Nasty Party".


With your help the Cons. should be back in the wilderness in no time."

Hoi nazi nick,
You leave my dear friend Haystack alone, save your rudeness and hatred for me.
And for Jews, they are used to it.
Please pay a prolonged visit to your dear friend Ahmedinejad and make sure you're with him when the Israeli nukes hit.

Fred1new - 10 May 2010 21:02 - 1898 of 6906

ITL,

I haven't got enough energy to waste on hating you, or for that matter anybody else.

That doesn't mean I don't no the meaning or emotion of anger.

If I knew more about you, it is probable I would dislike the views you hold and maybe some of your actions and probably wouldn't seek your company.

Hatred is pretty primitive and usually, eventually a self destructive emotion, unless dealt with appropriately.


I don't think I have a dislike of the Jews in general, but have found some to be arrogant and ignorant etc.,similar to individuals of other or probably all races, "religions" or "groupings".

(Jews are a different group, not a special group.)


In the past, I have had Jewish friends and work with and for some. In general, I think we got on well and until I started this thread I hadn't realised how many Jews I have known, "Race or Religion" has never been of particular relevance to me. However, having been challenged as ant-Zemetic etc. I have recollected that I even had a Jewish girl friend for a short time in my adolescence. Religion and race didn't seemed to be a problem at that time or since.

I disagree with the present Israeli policies and the actions of some Jews in and outside Israel.

You may think I am wrong and that is your right, but I think you may benefit from reviewing what I have written previously, before jumping on the bandwagon of those who are unable to question their own views.

Have a better week.


In The Land of the B - 11 May 2010 00:03 - 1899 of 6906

"I have recollected that I even had a Jewish girl friend for a short time in my adolescence"

Ya wohl ! Und zen I discovered she vas eine Yid. An untermenshen ! I vas only an adolescent so please forgive me. I did not know vot I was doing. Let me prove myself by joining the Waffen SS or better still zie Einsatzgruppen.

Condescending prat. You're the worst sort. Much worse than fahel. Haystack looks thoroughly decent in comparison.

Fred1new - 11 May 2010 00:13 - 1900 of 6906

itl.

You are a twit.


Camelot - 11 May 2010 07:46 - 1901 of 6906

what a vocabulary

lol

In The Land of the B - 11 May 2010 08:50 - 1902 of 6906

and what a sophisticated sense of humour

lol

Camelot - 11 May 2010 09:12 - 1903 of 6906

Interesting that Fred seems to favour Labour govt

Mandelson has strong jewish pedigree
"My father was the advertising manager at The Jewish Chronicle."

Milliband has strong jewish pedigree
"I am the child of Jewish immigrants and that is a very important part of my identity."

Careful Fred, you may get what you wish for

LOL

Fred1new - 11 May 2010 09:32 - 1904 of 6906

ITL and CAM,

I think you are showing your own tribal prejudices not mine.

Their origin is interesting, but what they are now and what they represent now are the things of importance.

I don't worship icons.

(Edited)

In The Land of the B - 11 May 2010 11:19 - 1905 of 6906

"I don't worship icons."

I can believe that.
After all, anyone capable of interplanetary travel should be well beyond such primitive worship.

In The Land of the B - 11 May 2010 11:55 - 1906 of 6906

Of course it is a well know fact that the evil Zionist Jews forced the UK into our current political turmoil to neutralise UK influence in the Middle East and in vindictive revenge for Miliband expelling the Mossad Head of Station.

In The Land of the B - 11 May 2010 11:56 - 1907 of 6906

Saves you posting a very long paste from the internet, fahel.

Fred1new - 11 May 2010 12:05 - 1908 of 6906

ITL

P1906

You wrote it.

Why was the "Mossad head of Station" expelled?

Was it in relationship to murder committed in another country and his "illegal or criminal actions" committed on behalf of an Israeli government.
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