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Similar but not very similar, Sainsburys scheme seems to have been a lot of hassle all round , Tesco's scheme only needs the bar code swiped, i should imagine.

Bar code swiped and someone monitoring it and counting the actual bags. All takes time = money.
How will they do it on the self service check outs? Agreed not large sums involved so they could be diddled by kids looking for sweets money and consider it a fair price for the green publicity.

In fact, the carrier bag debate is a little odd.
For years we have assumed that people get home, empty the bags and throw them away. I was reading research the other day that suggested almost all carrier bags are recycled in some fashion. Many are used for long term storage in garages, sheds and cellars, some high quality ones are used for transporting swimming kit etc. for kids, or pe kit for school,or even as a cheap pooper scooper by dog owners, but the vast majority are used by people as bin liners, rather than buying them!
This is why the idea of reusing them has failed to work. there is still an issue, that using them as bin liners means they end up in landfill, where they sit around for years, before breaking down into their constituent parts and contaminating the soil.
This is why there is a push to biodegradability.
alan

Thanks Alan.

'strawberries, potatoes, cabbages, cauliflower, broccoli, leeks and curly kale'

'At present, all of their produce is collected by lorry and transported to an ASDA depot in Bristol 140 miles away '

Any thoughts on whether this has any bearing on SEO,Greenseal, etc. and the packhouses?

It implies that a certain amount of packaging is being done by ASDA at their stores and that the packaging will be done by farmers in future. I thought salads we being trialled by SEO and due to hit ASDA stores in Sept. (see Alans posts).

How can the farmers package without packaging machinery? Obviously they cant, so is this part of a plan to arm farmers with Mondini/SEO machines and cut out some of the pack house packaging?

Don't forget those strange nuts in Kent!!

Sorry I posted my last post before I'd finished writing it! Have edited it to its finished state, please go back!!!

There are only 4 self service checkouts at my local Tesco at present, imagine there will be bar codes on the bags, next time i am there i will get more details.

[ Your family must have been rich living on the bay estate, LOL. Did you work at Shippams ? would i know you. ]

I worried about this to start with, as I thought Asda may be going back to loose fruit and veg that you pack yourself for the amounts you wish to buy, and that would be one important kind of packaging less. reading Asda's site though, they say that customers do not want to do that, the want pre packed, so the farmers must be packaging the stuff.
the threads are there for a tantalising puzzle. The timing is about right for SEO, the product is right, and my source mentioned by name Yorkshire Fresh produce, whereas the news tells us of "produce of Cornwall".
I'm not jumping to any conclusions because it is equally valid to say that the farmers will be packaging much smaller quantities and may employ people to do it by hand.
very interesting though, to see how Asda are thinking.
Alan

[Grandparents, but they were falling on reduced circumstances. The racehorses went just before the war and the servants went when they moved there in 1948. At least I had a glimpse of how the others lived! I only went to events at Shippams Social Club - stage shows I seem to recall.]

Hurray for someone in Asda with common sense-probably a woman!! When the farmers were struggling with the foot and mouth problems etc. I couldn't understand why they didnt band together and sell direct-before long the farmers markets were set up and they are a great success all over Devon and Cornwall. This must lead on from that with confidence gained from the strong public support now we need them to stop sending our local fish from Newlyn to Billingsgate and on. If you get up very early and go direct to the fish market you can buy but the small customers are not really wanted--high time our fishermen followed the farmers lead and fought back!! great opportunities for SEO as well.

Tonyrelaxes,

I live at Rose green.

Must find out what Shippams know about greenseal.

moneyplus

Yes I agree mp, sell direct cut out the middle man or goat.

Another reason, perhaps why supermarkets are going green, via the local produce way.
Within the last 3 years there have been 3 farmers markets open within 5 miles of our local supermarket, (we have a Morrison's and a Tesco).
We buy our meat at these markets as by cutting out the middle man we can buy it cheaper, and fresher. Although often they only open 1 day per week the customer base has become noticeably bigger.
OK it may make only a slight dent in the profit of said supermarkets, but if they can show they are buying local produce and by cutting waste (greenseal, starpol) reduce their cost and pass some of that back to the customer, they will benefit.
Look how many customers pay inflated prices just because they see the word ORGANIC on a produce. They may buy mainly for the better health, better taste reasoning but I know a few who include the none use of pesticides (for reasons of none pollution of the environment as well as health) as a reason.
You may feel that I have gone a bit too far of track, but all this goes to show that Green is in. The customers know it and so do the Supermarkets.

bprg get there first.

Bos,they don't do Greenseal.

thankfully.

Are you back in, Bos?
or are you (wisely) waiting for something concrete?
alan

interested observer, alan. still watching.

Gonna mail you!!

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