Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

It's four years before Labour get near power, If at all.

But that's by the by, those So called 'reforms' need to be passed
by the commisioners and the Judges with a very real chance that
they will be thrown out, will come before any change in government...

I speak for the €uropean Kommission ... Trust me, all will be well !


(just keep sending the cheques)

in the long term, the vote is whether or not you (uk) want to become part of a federal europe where national gov'ts and courts will have little power

Maggie at Blackpool 1999.

"In my lifetime all the problems have come from mainland Europe, and all the solutions have come from the English-speaking nations across the world"

It is hardly surprising that nothing has changed since then. With the notable exception of Holland, they haven't even been able to understand that best of all team games, cricket. The English-speaking world is still the biggest draw for immigrants, be that the US, UK, Australia etc. Who can blame those people for trying?

The problem is many from outside Europe do not want to assimilate once they arrive but instead want to continue with the customs from which they fled in the first place.

http://www.express.co.uk/finance/city/670698/George-Osborne-business-leaders-SUPPORT-Brexit

This is where the problems will occur in the future iturama imo.

I swear to God that if our Dave talks to me about a reformed Europe again, I'll give him a Glasgow kiss. He's off again wanting to dismiss so called myths of the Brexiteers but starts his conversation every time with the greatest myth of all.

Apparently May is questioning should the EU include the next batch of countries to join , Montenegro ,Albania , Serbia , Macedonia and Turkey , as they have links to crime , organised crime and corruption and terrorism . Should suit old Merkel really , but I'm saying nothing just in case .

I suggest that some should leave the UK as they have links to corruption, criminality, terrorism, and organised crime!

On no Fred that sort of thing doesn't happen in blighty you know -):

It does at the Dog and Duck.

Letters: Britain’s competitiveness is undermined by a failing EU

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/2016/05/15/letters-britains-competitiveness-is-undermined-by-a-failing-eu/

The EU is just a 'trade union for feather-bedded limo passengers', says Patisserie Valerie boss
Chairman of cafe group writes for The Sun about why a Brexit will 'unchain ourselves from a failing bureaucratic machine'

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/politics/7153049/EU-is-trade-union-for-feather-bedded-limo-passengers-says-Patisserie-Valerie-boss.html

The ‘single market’ has failed British exporters

http://www.voteleavetakecontrol.org/the_single_market_has_failed_british_exporters?utm_campaign=cnew16_5&utm_medium=email&utm_source=voteleave

jimmy - fred will actually vote for once and vote for you to leave :-)

Probably, I would.

Too soft .

I may leave of my own accord sooner than i would have retired if we stay in ,because Britain will be finished ,give it 20 years .

Your country needs you .