rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.

for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ

for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance

not as badly as those who bought "illegal" houses in Spain and are now having them demolished ...... in our biz, we have an "in" joke that we don't deal with Spain for 10 years and then remember exactly why not!

Well I have continued to increase my profits with the exception of 1 mad trade when I got carried away - will bank the rest now and stay on the sidelines now.

Have a good weekend all

It occurs to me that with the more or less confirmed slowdown/recession in the US, plus the likelihood of the Chinese economy slowing after the euphoria of the Olympics has evaporated then the commodity boom will fizzle out by the end of 2008. The inflationary forces generated by the massive increase in the price of oil and metals will gradually dissipate by the middle of 2009 as demand falls away. Perhaps the only imponderable is how much unemployment will rise in the meantime.

What makes you think demand will fall away in 2009 for oil and metals? Oil and metals also are not the main driving factors behind inflation, both have been on the rise in past years when we have seen a sustainable inflation level and central banks have managed to keep it within set targets. The bakning and finance sectors make up two thirds of the UK's GDP and are by far the biggest forces able to affect inflation.

Inflation currenty seams to be the worlds way of dealing with depression. The US finance capital of the world deal with inflation by printing more money. This combats the problem but creates another by reducing the true value of money. As investors we don't want to see holdings shrink. Two options are available being gold or index linked bonds which both protect value. Gold is the more volitile and has costs associated with holding as to bonds which pay income.

This is why any depression will cause the sell off of equity markets and falls in related Indicies. Agreed unemployment should follow what we're seeing as businesses cut back to try and preserve margins but by then I suspect we'll be at the bottom or coming out of depression.

Sunday Times article by David Smith is worth reading ..... IMF reckons US economy to gow only about 0.5% for each of the next 2 years, and advanced economies overall by only 1.3% .... but offset by emerging ecnomies at about 6.6% giving overall world growth of +/-3.75%, being stronger than growth in early 1990s and turn of this century.

with more vile numbers expected from US and B&B in UK etc, can't say it cheers me greatly for the coming week(s), but a crumb nevertheless.

I am pretty much resigned to western economies going in to recession. When the recession comes to an end, then lots of opportunities will arise. That's the way of the world, imo.
I certainly think it's worth looking at emerging economies, South America in particular, which seems to be growing, but in a controlled way. Mining, shipping, oil & telecoms all look to have potential, but tricky to find which companies are listed in the U.K. If anyone happens to know of a website that lists by country, foreign companies listed on the U.K. exchanges, info would be gratefully received.

So what do you guys reckon for Monday - further drop in the dow - or a rebound ?

The dow seemed to be tanking quite relentlessly on Friday.

My own view is a drop for the FTSE on Monday - but will it be sustained - not sure?

Further news of substantial write offs at Citi Group and Merrill Lynch probably means we are in for a poor first quarter results season and the Dow should be heading sub 12000 in the short term. Ftse tends to follow suit cant think of much chance of any good news short term, unless Brown calls a snap election!!

Last time ubs and Deutsche bank issued new writedowns the DOW went up 400 points in a day! Ever unpredictable!

FTSE should gap down at open 1% Monday, as it plays catch up to DOW, but Asia may influence overnight. Not sure if more write offs from Citi Group and Merrill Lynch will effect DOW that much, but more likely if we have more earnings dissapointments like GE and broader economy.

Bitter sweet trading day for me Friday, my morning trending system indicated a long position at 6000, which I correctely ignored and saved myself a large loss. Then just before 11:30 I pressed the sell button at 6012, it failed to register because I placed the points in wrong place, by which time it drifted of a little and being greedy I waited for 6012. Then farted about a bit , made a nice cup of tea, then bang down 65 points and lower.

Will try again Monday.

Good Luck........

Spitfire lovely to know that u experienced traders can make little mistakes like the novices

I only started spread trading last year and have made plenty of mistakes, hopefully learning from them. I have traded shares for many years though.

The thing I find hard is that I often will call things correctly, but then I don't have the confidence to follow it through. I think the problem could be that with day trading you need to act fast, as opposed to share trading where a longer time frame is used.

Think you're right. Was sure the Ftse was going to fall,and it has already but did I act on it..... NO! Of course it could be back up by 08:00 but I don't think so.
Good luck anyway I think we all need a bit of that!

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