bigbobjoylove
- 09 Jan 2006 12:46
FROM THE ADVFN BOARD:
First, let's look at the the Commercial property division - Christie and Co, Christie First and Pinders.
These three between them had turnover in 2004 of 37.3m Savills had 316m sales. Savills is valued at 650m. So on that basis alone if a company bought the Christie property division they might pay 75m for it on a valuation the same as Savills.
The Software solutions business VCE Timeless had sales of 13m in 2004. VCE Timeless is an EPOS (Electronic Point of Sale) Software company. A similar company might be Ascribe (ASP). In 2004 Ascribe had sales of just 6.5m and a market cap of 37m. You might therefore expect this division to be worth 75m
The Stock Inventory Businesses, Orridge and Venners had sales of 20m in 2004. A similar business might be Chelford which had sales of 12m in 2004. Chelford is valued at 17m On that basis you might expect this part of Christie's inventories business to be worth 25m.
Sum of the parts, based on sales, these three businesses could be worth around 180m if the business was broken up and sold. Christie as a single entity is valued at 31m.
Come on, if you're a value hunter you can see the cheapness here.
They are set to do 80m in sales here, they are valued at less than half sales! Think about it. It isn't going to take much of a margin increase here to get the profits way higher. If they got margins up to 7% they are on a PE a little over 5 while it's quite possible with these type of businesses the margins go above 10%. If they achieve that the PE is 4.
The market is fast asleep here imo - they could quite possibly sell the property business alone for far more than the current market cap.
bigbobjoylove
- 04 Apr 2006 10:53
- 19 of 41
out,into CRC now big time.
hewittalan6
- 05 Apr 2006 10:23
- 20 of 41
Another good day taking shape.
Results good, divi up and when this nonsense with capcon is sorted, it will go further.
Alan
hewittalan6
- 15 Jun 2006 09:37
- 21 of 41
Director buying 12000+ shares last week. In a bear market!!
Still happy to be a holder.
Alan
hewittalan6
- 19 Jun 2006 07:31
- 22 of 41
Tipped as a buy at 141.5p in the Sunday telegraph.
Even happier to be a holder.
Alan
hewittalan6
- 08 Sep 2006 08:36
- 23 of 41
Still on my own??????
Great RNs this morning and the SP reflects that.
Alan
cynic
- 08 Sep 2006 08:43
- 24 of 41
not a company about which i know anything, though is see a pretty wide spread and that sp is already up 12p this morning on back of results ..... would have added chart etc, but not able to do .... is that because the thread shows no company epic?
hewittalan6
- 08 Sep 2006 08:47
- 25 of 41
No idea Cynic. I didn't start the thread, and I think only the person who started it can add a chart to the header.
I did loads of research before I got in at about 135, but sad to say I have ignored it a fair bit since then. Probably because its one of those where my research showed it to be steady and well run so I have no real concerns about losses. I see it as a steady mid termer that will just give me a nice capital growth with a bit of a divi as a bonus.
I just leave it on my portfolio and let it suprise me every now and then!!
Alan
cynic
- 08 Sep 2006 08:54
- 26 of 41
i am pretty certain that if the EPIC is shown, then the chart can easily be downloaded ..... r u going to start a new thread and try?
for steady growth etc, you could do a lot worse than take a good look at SL. (Standard Life), though you would have done much better still had you qualified for free shares + discounted "extras" at the float
hewittalan6
- 08 Sep 2006 09:05
- 27 of 41
Not starting a new thread, the credit belongs very much to bigbobjoylove for this. Its not really my arena and i would never have spotted it in a million years had he not given the heads up on it.
A chart can be added to any post, I just don't know how. If you want to start a new one, then thats fine by me.
Standard life is no doubt an excellent play but for many reasons (none of them linked to SL) I am staying out for the moment, but I wish you the best of luck with it.
Alan
cynic
- 08 Sep 2006 09:15
- 28 of 41
SL I got via the free issue and bought more as permitted at discount ..... very tasty to date with 5% bonus share issue next year + divi + possibility of t/o
hewittalan6
- 12 Sep 2006 12:37
- 30 of 41
Erm Yes, looking at todays SP (I know - too late again).
Anyone heard any rumour or anything that may be driving this???
Alan
hewittalan6
- 10 Oct 2006 08:20
- 31 of 41
Still going strong.
hewittalan6
- 10 Nov 2006 17:01
- 32 of 41
Director buying at 233p today.
Deep joy.
hewittalan6
- 21 Dec 2006 09:14
- 33 of 41
Just thought i'd drop in and be smug again about the SP.
hewittalan6
- 14 Mar 2007 15:48
- 34 of 41
3 very interesting RNS today.
Taken at face value, 3 guys have gone from 0% holding to in excess of 50% holding in an instant.
Either a mistake or something is afoot.
hewittalan6
- 15 Mar 2007 10:44
- 35 of 41
A mistake. I checked. It is not a recent purchase.
Checking back though, the current PE is only 10 and on 08/12/2006 an Rns stated that 2006 profits would be materially ahead of forecasts come final results in April.
The SP then was 237. It is only 245 now.
Could this have gone unnoticed??
cynic
- 15 Mar 2007 10:56
- 36 of 41
now i know the i/d of CTG! ..... To the best of my knowledge, Christie's specialise and are the leading company in the valuation and sale of restaurants and licensed premises ..... Have not checked, but suspect the shares are not much traded and/or are very tightly held thus creating trading liquidity probs ..... I also do not know against whom they should be compared for "value" as they do not fall into the same sort of league as say Savill's who happen to have a p/e of about 15
hewittalan6
- 15 Mar 2007 11:19
- 37 of 41
Over half of all shares are held by Directors, so they are lightly traded. this merely means that both upside and downside are increased as supply / demand is strangled.
Directors were buying at 233p just before the december update.
As for the PE ratio, I think a ratio of 10 is low for any company. Particularly a smaller profitable one, with a good record and forecasting profits "materially" ahead of expectations.
April will tell us all.
cynic
- 15 Mar 2007 12:06
- 38 of 41
you are prob right .... though Savill's is "in a different league" they are still broadly the same sector so if Savill's is fairly priced, albeit following some recent bullish press comment, p/e of just 10 for CGT looks particularly undemanding.
For all that, NMS is only 500 shares (1250 at today's price), so to buy or sell even quite a small lot (5/10000 shares) would probably upset sp quite badly, even if they are available.
By the way, I assume all the changes in shareholdings since 28/2 are directors' purchases ..... am i correct?