bosley
- 20 Feb 2004 09:34
robinhood
- 17 Aug 2006 13:47
- 19006 of 27111
BKK2. Ik ben Rotterdammer maar ik woon al sinds 1976 in Engeland. (forget Google translations ,it translates word by word rather then the sentence . b.v. " een school vissen" would be translated as" a college fish"
robinhood
- 17 Aug 2006 13:54
- 19008 of 27111
May be we should tell SEO board in all the languages we can jointly muster to" get their fingers out"
Sharesure
- 17 Aug 2006 13:54
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Woodie, Bank finance would avoid dilution and make the company's mgt. clearly make a business case based on expected orders; it would discipline the mgt. team into behaving responsibly. I have had a suspicion that in the past this company has been run by boffins inventing good products but with little business acumen in how to reliably move from inventing into commercialising. Maybe Martin Wagner can do just that - I'm reserving judgement on that until we see something tangible to prove it.
Sharesure
- 17 Aug 2006 13:54
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Woodie, Bank finance would avoid dilution and make the company's mgt. clearly make a business case based on expected orders; it would discipline the mgt. team into behaving responsibly. I have had a suspicion that in the past this company has been run by boffins inventing good products but with little business acumen in how to reliably move from inventing into commercialising. Maybe Martin Wagner can do just that - I'm reserving judgement on that until we see something tangible to prove it.
robinhood
- 17 Aug 2006 13:54
- 19011 of 27111
May be we should tell SEO board in all the languages we can jointly muster to" get their fingers out"
greekman
- 17 Aug 2006 13:55
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Woodie,
In a worse case scenario, SEO own several product patents that they could either sell, or share license.
I feel a bank finance package would be best, as it would be relatively simple and quick. An equity type issue would presumably have relatively higher proportion set up fees. But as said, my opinion only and I am not close to being a finance expert.
I also think that given todays news release, they won't hang about.
Tonyrelaxes
- 17 Aug 2006 14:05
- 19015 of 27111
Spasiba
("SHE" uses our cyrilic/RU keyboard at her work and I cannot be bothered with www.translit.ru right now)
tweenie
- 17 Aug 2006 14:09
- 19016 of 27111
below taken from e-mail, recieved today, asking why all the panic and why this latesrt rns
We stated in our interims that we were reviewing the funding and our financing options. The announcement made today is an update.
We are continuing to review all the options. At half year we had 300k in the bank. Today we have 900k.
In the meantime, we continue to progress the commercialisation of our products and, as noted in Martin Wagers quote, there is positive news on this front from USA.
Best regards
Sylvia
____________________________________________
Sylvia Leavey
Investor Relations Manager
Tel: +44 (0) 2380 867 100
Fax: +44 (0) 2380 867 070
Email: Sylvia.Leavey@Stanelco.co.uk
driver
- 17 Aug 2006 14:14
- 19017 of 27111
bosley
- 17 Aug 2006 14:15
- 19018 of 27111
from the 5th august 2005
"The Directors are also now seeking approval for two further resolutions.
The first such resolution seeks Shareholder approval for the issue of further
new Ordinary Shares for cash, other than on a pre-emptive basis to existing
Shareholders, under the terms of section 95 of the Act. The Directors obtained
an equivalent authority at the Company's last Annual General Meeting, though
such authority has now been exhausted by the placing undertaken by the Company
on 8 June 2005. Whilst the Directors have no current intention to use this
authority in the event that it is granted, they believe it would be useful in
providing the Company with the flexibility to raise further equity capital in
the future on a quick and cost effective basis, should market conditions so
permit and should there be a bona fide strategic reason to do so. The authority
now being sought would enable the issue of 46,432,910 new Ordinary Shares,
representing 5 per cent. of the Company's current issued share capital of
928,658,222 Ordinary Shares. The authority will lapse at the conclusion of the
Company's next annual general meeting.
The second such resolution is required to increase the borrowing powers of the
Company set out in Article 94B of the Company's Articles of Association, which
are currently limited to 10 million. Having regard to the level of deferred
consideration payable under the Acquisition Agreement and the level of trade
creditors with which the Group operates, the Directors believe that the current
borrowing limit will be insufficient, and are accordingly proposing that it be
increased to 25 million."
WOODIE
- 17 Aug 2006 14:17
- 19019 of 27111
my own view fwiw is they have already approached bank/banks and have not got the terms they wanted hence the paragraph in the rns.
As indicated in the interim results, in order to enable the Group to move into
the next phase of the commercialisation of its intellectual property portfolio
and to meet its working capital requirements, the Company is currently exploring
all financing options including a public equity issue.
as anyone still got there copy of the last agm As indicated in the interim results, in order to enable the Group to move into
the next phase of the commercialisation of its intellectual property portfolio
and to meet its working capital requirements, the Company is currently exploring
all financing options including a public equity issue.
has anyone still got a copy of the last agm resolutions that will tell you how many shares can be issued before they seek shareholder approval.
as always dyor
WOODIE
- 17 Aug 2006 14:19
- 19020 of 27111
ignore last sentence did not see bosley last post
Tonyrelaxes
- 17 Aug 2006 14:26
- 19021 of 27111
.3m on 1 May.
3.7m raised early June.
.9m now.
Therefore at least 3.1m spent in 3 & half months, probably more considering revenue income.
Of this 1.6m was the stage payment to Biotec (already made according to half year statements, OBLO)
So the "other" rate of burn is 1.5m. A little lower than in the first half year.
hangon
- 17 Aug 2006 14:27
- 19022 of 27111
So SEO doesn't need more funding - good, then why is the sp down? (Or Up from the Director Buys at 3p about two years ago).
This company seems to be up and down like the proverbial.
Packing is not exciting, Governments are trying to say "use less" - whereas SEO want us to use more (of theirs). I just don't see SEO selling the environmental aspect.
We hear they are experiencing difficulties in borrowing (my words) food processing machines (to trial their wares)....yet isn't it highly likely this would be the case? What efficient company has spare capacity lying idle?
SEO needs to be partnering either the machine manufacturers, or the food processors - OR, offer a machine that is dedicated to their own needs - why don't they buy one - or do a deal with the manufacturer so they have exclusive sales for the first year? MAybe they should be making their own stainless steel and plastic machines...dedicated to their materials...double the interest, or by Rental, gives them a greater grip on the consumables.....
I get the impression this company is flapping about like a ship with a broken rudder. Confused RNS don't help. If they have enough cash, why don't the tell us how much - and how long?
That SEO's RNS is confusing the Market should be no surprise - Yet (posted here)their PR firm says SEO has enough cash (for survival?).....but I suspect the Market know best: The price has dropped 6% today.
ssanebs
- 17 Aug 2006 14:51
- 19023 of 27111
had a call from the new FD who said he is not worried about the cash position. Joining the company 8 weeks ago he said his first job was to review the financial position of seo. As they were now going into commercialisaton stage he took out the staff he no longer required(12) and mr robbins now advising only. He blames GS delay on the packhouses having the busiest period ever, but states that a live trial in stores for september. He states starpol selling well in the US and wagner's visit to the US rated 10/10. Also the asda rns was pulled when they relised while updating the website it was accidently published before the rns, another blunder!
Starpol 3000 approval is imminent, but he like many states that biotec will be the real money spinner and they are running at full capacity in germany. But all this relies on generating money very soon he said...
greekman
- 17 Aug 2006 14:55
- 19024 of 27111
Hangon,
The issue is not so much about using less as wasting less.
The Greenseal system has less waste, as the products apart from lasting longer due to the seal, have a lower spoil throw away percentage.
Starpol is also a less waste product as it will not pollute or fill landfill sites.
SEO are selling the environmental aspect, governments across the world are pushing it, but as always it's the end customer that will decide if SEO make it or not.
Anyone who thinks the green issue is not the way to go is in a very small minority.
StarFrog
- 17 Aug 2006 15:19
- 19025 of 27111
greekman (Your boys took one hell of a beating ...... etc, etc) ;-)
I think that it is about time that a particular myth be readdressed and put to bed. Starpol may be a great product with its environmentally freindly benefits, but don't get too carried away with the idea that this will be the future of packaging. It wont. Why am I so sure? Have a think about disposal.
I keep reading posts from holders on this thread stating that Starpol being biodegradeable will not fill up landfill sites, etc. But do any of you holders out there have a local refuse collection where they ask you to seperate out the biodegradeable plastics? Do you have a third bin for this. I didn't think so.
The truth of the matter is that the consumer will still throw away the packaging material with the rest of the domestic rubbish destined for a landfill site. I very much doubt that at the refuse collection sites there will be a host of people sorting out the biodegradeables from the rest of the trash. As a result, Starpol products get incinerated or land-filled along with the rest of the rubbish.
So what incentive is there for a retailer to move over to Starpol. It would be more costly in the short term and they couldn't advertise the green benefits since the consumer would be aware that there is no special provision to deal with the disposal of biodegradeable products.
Sorry to sound negative, but it had to be said at some point.
And on a lighter note, what exactly is wrong with land-filling all our bio-products and paper based products. This will provide the oil for our great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-(etc)-grandchildren in years to come.