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StarFrog
You only got half the story.


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Hi greekman

Point taken, however ...... landfill operators try to disperse the rubbish evenly to avoid pockets of material decaying at a faster rate than the material surrounding them. If this were to happen there is a danger that pockets of explosive gases accumulate (e.g. methane). Additionally, a landfill site containing volumes of material that decay at different rates is mechanically unstable (don't forget, the plant machinery has to drive over these sites, and who would risk the chance of dropping into a hidden hole!).

With this in mind, there is always the possibilty that fast degrading biodegradeable materlals will not be allowed to be placed into conventional landfill sites. So, without a proper disposal method who would want to buy?

Brilliant site THANKS Driver

Peter

StarFrog, sorry, but what a load of nonsense. You say in one post that landfill operators do not sort one material type from another and then in the next rubbish is dispersed evenly. As all of your household rubbish is tipped into the site, the 'dozers spread it around, end of story. This rubbish of course contains materials of differing degradeable rates, food, paper etc and non-biodegradeable products. Whether it contains any quantity of biodegradeable is immaterial in this context. What is important is that we reduce the amount of non-biodegradeable whether that be by recycling or for example the use of Starpol. There are only so many holes we can fill.

pth

pth

Sorry pth - I guess I phrased that last post a bit poorly. The point was that landfill operators don't take any old rubbish (no pun intended). It is effectively graded by merit of what is and what is not allowed to be tipped. Accordingly, landfill operators attempt to keep materials that decay at different rates apart. Now I am not talking about some guys sorting through your domestic rubbish when it arrives at the site. What I am saying is that different grades of material (domestic, industrial-light, industrial-heavy, low toxicity bio-medical, etc) are tipped at different sites or at different locations within a landfill. What the operator does not want is domestic waste that contains material that may decay within one year when the rest takes 100 years. So if Starpol and its freinds are to be marketed as the new green materials that decay in a year, then it may be that alternative arrangements will need to be made for their disposal.

Recycle while you still can!

4000000 buy after hours

StarFrog,

If you looked through your own rubbish bin, you would find all sorts of rubish that decay at vastly different rates, from plastic packing to potato peelings - how does throwing away biodegradable packaging alter what is already happening at present??

starfrog,

Isn't the real point here that it isn't up to the land fill sites what they take - they have to handle what is 'dumped on them' (pun intended).

It is the land fill site operaters who will have to adapt.

Asda heralded their zero waste programme with fanfares and trumpets and built recycling facilities at some of their warehouses. They create back of store facilities to recycle all their cardboard and Outer packaging, which the empty delivery lorries return to the depot for correct disposal.
is it beyond imagination that Asda create a facility for Starpol products, rather like a bottle bank, and put the please recycle on your next visit sticker on them, for the lorries to take back to depot, and possibly pass back to the farmers who are delivering.
It might not be taken up hugely, but the point from Asdas view is that they have another big news story to convince us all how very green they are.
alan

Al, I would have thought that the whole point with Starpol is that it can be thrown away and therefore will, and will wind up in landfill sites (or possibly incinerators) where it will break down in environmentally "friendly" fashion. Can't see anyone arranging to bring it back to the supermarket.

EDIT: or do you mean the farmers will somehow spread used Starpol products on their land as manure? A nice idea, but somehow I can't see it catching on.

From uk-analyst.com

Shares in environmentally friendly packaging group Stanelco slid 1.075p to 4.125p after the company said it may have to pass the hat round again. In a trading update the company said it had cash in the bank of 900,000 pounds, with an unused overdraft facility of 200,000. It reckoned this was sufficient to meet its cash requirements for a further three months in the absence of further funding or new revenue streams. The group said it was currently exploring all financing options including a public equity issue. This is a great company with great prospects, but with funding and timing concerns to the fore, the stock appears overvalued at present.

ST,
No I can't see it catching on, but thats not really the point.
Asda want green, but not at all costs. They only want green because it sells tins of beans. How succesful the green story is, is irrelevant when compared to the value of the story they will tell the world.
Imagine if you will, we sell spuds that are grown organically, and locally, with minimum delivery mileage. When you have eaten our spuds, take the packaging back to Asda, put it in the bin and we will give it back to the farmer to use in his fields to grow the next crop without the need for excessive chemicals. A virtuous circle.
i am not saying it is right, but even a retarded PR or AD man can come up with a hell of a green marketing campaign with that to work with!!
And that is the point. How will GS and Starpol help Asda sell more spuds?
Alan

Al - Okay, I follow you; actually your viewpoint is ingenious but whether it's likely to become reality is another thing.

Alan .... it won't! and i still say SEO makes a busted flush look like a winning hand

No, I don't think it will either.
SEo is a royal flush, in very heavy disguise.

That 4 million after hours could be a sell.

Tesco is now leading the way in 'green' shopping by gradually introducing fully degradable carrier bags in all our stores up and down the country.

This means that the waste will be sent to landfill sites, where the heat generated within these, will lead to disintegration of the degradable Tesco bags within a few months. This is of added benefit when the bags are commonly used as bin-liners, since it allows the flow of air and water around food and garden waste. Effectively, this results in more rapid bio-degradation, than if it was enclosed in ordinary carrier bags.

Green customers to get bonus at Tesco


Tesco is to offer shoppers a financial incentive to use fewer plastic shopping bags in a bid to cut the yearly four billion plastic bags it dishes out by 25% within two years




Tesco plastic bag scheme: the first of its kind

The UKs number one retailer will offer its 13 million Clubcard members points for not using plastic bags, re-using old plastic bags even those from rival supermarkets, packing shopping in carrier bags bought into the store and for returning bags.

Clubcard points are usually awarded at a rate of one for each 1 spent. Clubcard holders will also receive one voucher to redeem against a bag for life in Tesco stores.

Chief executive, Sir Terry Leahy, said the supermarket had been working on ways to reduce plastic bag use. We have had a team looking at carrier bags, trialling different ideas in our stores and talking to customers about what we could do to encourage them to use fewer bags and to recycle the ones they do use.

"We have to move the emphasis away from trying to force change and onto rewarding positive behaviour. In other words a more carrot than stick approach," he said.

From September all Tescos carrier bags will be degradable and a new thicker and bigger bag will be launched so customers need to use less bags and will be more likely to return them to the store.

The new scheme to encourage shoppers to bring their own bags starts on 14 August and will be supported by TV ads to explain how it will work. Celebrities, including Martine McCutcheon and Alan Tichmarsh, will front the adverts.




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