Will this increase or decrease the likelihood of terrorist actions in America, Europe and the rest of the world?

If you were a member of a family murdered in this conflict, would you be seeking revenge?

Should Tzipi Livni and Ehud Olmert, be tried for war crimes if or when this conflict comes to an end?

What will the price of oil be in 4 weeks time?

Hey Nick,
How about all the "murders" and 'illegal or criminal actions' committed in another country on behalf of the US and UK governments of Taliban and AQ leaders by US and UK UAVs and special forces?

Now back to the debate-even fahel will be able to comprehend just why Israel is needed as an ally of the USA.


Israel as a Security Asset for the United States

Liran Kapoano

In response to the recent ridiculous treatment Israel has gotten from the Obama administration, a group of about 50 retired United States generals and admirals put together the following letter urging him as well as Congress and the general American public to recognize how truly intertwined Israel's success is with America's. Here, is the unedited letter, directly from the officers:

Israel as a Security Asset for the United States

We, the undersigned, have traveled to Israel over the years with The Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs (JINSA). We brought with us our decades of military experience and, following unrestricted access to Israel's civilian and military leaders, came away with the unswerving belief that the security of the State of Israel is a matter of great importance to the United States and its policy in the Middle East and Eastern Mediterranean. A strong, secure Israel is an asset upon which American military planners and political leaders can rely. Israel is a democracy - a rare and precious commodity in the region - and Israel shares our commitment to freedom, personal liberty and rule of law.



Throughout our travels and our talks, the determination of Israelis to protect their country and to pursue a fair and workable peace with their neighbors was clearly articulated. Thus we view the current tension between the United States and Israel with dismay and grave concern that political differences may be allowed to outweigh our larger mutual interests.



As American defense professionals, we view events in the Middle East through the prism of American security interests.



The United States and Israel established security cooperation during the Cold War, and today the two countries face the common threat of terrorism by those who fear freedom and liberty. Historically close cooperation between the United States. and Israel at all levels including the IDF, military research and development, shared intelligence and bilateral military training exercises enhances the security of both countries. American police and law enforcement officials have reaped the benefit of close cooperation with Israeli professionals in the areas of domestic counter-terrorism practices and first response to terrorist attacks.



Israel and the United States are drawn together by shared values and shared threats to our well-being.



The proliferation of weapons and nuclear technology across the Middle East and Asia, and the ballistic missile technology to deliver systems across wide areas require cooperation in intelligence, technology and security policy. Terrorism, as well as the origins of financing, training and executing terrorist acts, need to be addressed multilaterally when possible. The dissemination of hatred and support of terrorism by violent extremists in the name of Islam, whether state or non-state actors, must be addressed as a threat to global peace.



In the Middle East, a volatile region so vital to U.S. interests, it would be foolish to disengage - or denigrate - an ally such as Israel.



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Lieutenant General Mark Anderson, USAF (ret.)



Rear Admiral Charles Beers, USN (ret.)



General William Begert, USAF (ret.)



Rear Admiral Stanley W. Bryant, USN (ret.)



Lieutenant General Anthony Burshnick, USAF (ret.)



Lieutenant General Paul Cerjan, USA (ret.)



Admiral Leon Edney, USN (ret.)



Brigadier General William F. Engel, USA (ret.)



Major General Bobby Floyd, USAF (ret.)



General John Foss, USA (ret.)



Major General Paul Fratarangelo, USMC (ret.)



Major General David Grange, USA (ret.)



Lieutenant General Tom Griffin, USA (ret.)



Lieutenant General Earl Hailston, USMC (ret.)



Lieutenant General John Hall, USAF (ret.)



General Alfred Hansen, USAF (ret.)



Rear Admiral James Hinkle, USN (ret.)



General Hal Hornburg, USAF (ret.)



Major General James T. Jackson, USA (ret.)



Admiral Jerome Johnson, USN (ret.)



Rear Admiral Herb Kaler, USN (ret.)



Vice Admiral Bernard Kauderer, USN (ret.)



General William F. Kernan, USA (ret.)



Major General Homer Long, USA (ret.)



Major General Jarvis Lynch, USMC (ret.)



General Robert Magnus, USMC (ret.)



Lieutenant General Charles May, Jr., USAF (ret.)



Vice Admiral Martin Mayer, USN (ret.)



Major General James McCombs, USA (ret.)



Lieutenant General Fred McCorkle, USMC (ret.)



Rear Admiral W. F. Merlin, USCG (ret.)



Rear Admiral Mark Milliken, USN (ret.)



Rear Admiral Riley Mixson, USN (ret.)



Major General William Moore, USA (ret.)



Lieutenant General Carol Mutter, USMC (ret.)



Major General Larry T. Northington, USAF (ret.)



Lieutenant General Tad Oelstrom, USAF (ret.)



Major General James D. Parker, USA (ret.)



Vice Admiral J. T. Parker, USN (ret.)



Major General Robert Patterson, USAF (ret.)



Vice Admiral James Perkins, USN (ret.)



Rear Admiral Brian Peterman, USCG (ret.)



Lieutenant General Alan V. Rogers, USAF (ret.)



Rear Admiral Richard Rybacki, USCG (ret.)



General Crosbie Saint, USA (ret.)



Rear Admiral Norm Saunders, USCG (ret.)



General Lawrence Skantze, USAF (ret.)



Major General Sid Shachnow, USA (ret.)



Rear Admiral Jeremy Taylor, USN (ret.)



Major General Larry Taylor, USMCR (ret.)



Lieutenant General Lanny Trapp, USAF (ret.)



Vice Admiral Jerry O. Tuttle, USN (ret.)



General Louis Wagner, USA (ret.)



Rear Admiral Thomas Wilson, USN (ret.)



Lieutenant General Robert Winglass, USMC (ret.)



Rear Admiral Guy Zeller, USN (ret.)www.jinsa.org



- signatures as of April 7, 2010


So the next time someone tries to throw the nonsensical argument that sometimes Israel just needs some "tough love" to get it "back on track" or that treating the Jewish state like an immature child that needs be made to sit in the corner, is somehow beneficial to anyone -- tell them to go argue with these 50 retired admirals and generals.

The actions of Israel are like those of immature adolescents, who have a loaded pistols and other toys.

They are a just another small state.

The influence they have on American policy is waning.

They would be wise to consider their negotiating style.

That does not mean surrendering, or submission, but recognising the dignity of others and not swaggering would be the first steps to a sensible negotiation and lasting agreements.

This would be beneficent to both sides in the present conflicts. Bullying and macho stances will not bring the conflict to the end.

Nick,
Reading some of your recent posts, having left unread most of the earlier ones where they belong in the sewer, I'm beginning to think English is not your native language.
That's not a crime, of course, but perhaps you should listen more closely to broadcasts being beamed from Earth to try to learn the language better, and thus explain your unworldly attitudes in a way a few humans might understand.
Just trying to be helpful.
Travel safely when you are re-called.

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Recipe: Toast

Preparation time:
o 5 minutes

Serves:
o 1 (multiply up the quantities if more than one diner)

Cooking Skills Required:
o Moderate

Ingredients
o Bread 1 slice

Method

Place bread in toaster and press down firmly on lever. Await pop-up. Remove from toaster.

Garnish with butter and marmalade or jam to taste.
Slice either diagonally or across the long side.

Serve with tea.

Enjoy!


PS - Fred, the message in the first of the following pictures is especially for you.

In case Hays has missed this.

You can see the similarities.

It is not surprising that hardline Israelis and their American supporters are now waging a vicious smear campaign against those human rights organizations that criticize Israel.

Fascinating, makes good print material.

Brown toast :)
Resigning tonight.

http://www.google.co.uk/images?sa=3&q=funny+gordon+brown+pictures&btnG=Search+images

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Great political news :)

Stop crying fred.
You could always emigrate to another part of planet Earth, or just go back to your home planet.

I have no need to emigrate and before the end of the next 2years you may feel like crying.

I hope Cameron attempts to resolve the Middle East crisis.

It will take more courage than he appears to have.

However, if he does take into consideration the whole of society when introducing the necessary legislation to resolve the economic and social problems, I wish him well.

However, if he does take into consideration the whole of society when introducing the necessary legislation to resolve the economic and social problems, I wish him well.

Goodness, Fred, with a comment like that you may aspire to be a gentleman yet. Pity so many other Labour supporters are such mealy-mouthed bad losers. (With the surprising, but pleasant, exception of Alistair Campbell.)

A Timetable For War
http://original.antiwar.com/giraldi/2010/05/05/a-timetable-for-war/

Stick to the recipes!

Stuffed Pastry Squares

Al-Motubug

6 cups flour
2 eggs beaten with 1/2 cup corn oil
2 bundles leeks (medium sized)
1 teaspoon ground black pepper
1 1/2 lbs ground beef
water
3 eggs (beaten)
salt
3 onions (finely chopped)

Sift flour, add the water and salt a little at a time, mixing dough until it becomes soft but pliable. Divide the dough into ten pieces, knead each piece well. Place on a tray sprinkled with a little water and let rise for at least one hour. Put ground beef in a saucepan with chopped onion, black pepper and salt. Stir over medium heat until cooked. Set aside until cool. Chop leeks and wash several times through a strainer; drain and put on a paper towel until excess water is absorbed. Add to ground beef.Take a piece of dough and cover in flour, roll out, place over back of hands and stretch until dough becomes quite thin. Place dough on worktop and trim uneven edges. Brush two tablespoons of egg and oil mixture over dough surface. Fold to form smaller squares. Place in frying pan or griddle over medium heat with one tablespoon of oil. Place pastry squares in pan and fry on both sides until golden brown. Repeat above method using five of the remaining pieces. With piece number six repeat as above to the folding stage. Place one fried pastry square in the center of the unfolded piece, cover generously with ground beef and three tablespoons of beaten egg. Fold into a square. Remember to sprinkle oil and egg mixture between layers. Fry in 3 tablespoons of oil over medium heat until both sides are golden brown. Repeat using remaining four pieces of dough. Serve hot. Serves 10-12.

"Fred1new - 11 May 2010 12:05 - 1908 of 1923
ITL

P1906

You wrote it.

Why was the "Mossad head of Station" expelled?

Was it in relationship to murder committed in another country and his "illegal or criminal actions" committed on behalf of an Israeli government.

In The Land of the B - 11 May 2010 12:10 - 1909 of 1923
Hey Nick,
How about all the "murders" and 'illegal or criminal actions' committed in another country on behalf of the US and UK governments of Taliban and AQ leaders by US and UK UAVs and special forces? "


I've not been here long, but does this fred individual normally ignore anything which doesn't fit in with his warped mind?
My question is a perfectly reasonable topic for discussion I'd have thought.
Or is he so anti-semitic that all he can do is spout hatred and propaganda?
A typical "don't let the facts get in the way of your opinion" type.

I've not been here long, but does this fred individual normally ignore anything which doesn't fit in with his warped mind?

You need to get over to the Pay Per View. He's got his own fan club over there.

:o)

hilary,
I don't think I'd accept any amount of money to read fred/nick's posts, much less pay per view to read them.
I mean, what use are they to man or beast?
They are worse than excrement, at least that can be recycled.
I assume he is a laughing stock on pay per view, but then I suspect he is here as well.
Thank you for the thought, though :)

ITL,

Are you married to one another?

I would think it would be a marriage of like minds and values.

Still thing are warming up at the negotiations on the Middle East.

Think Israel has be read the riot act again,

Ps

Amazing how Professor John J. Mearsheimer observations were and the conclusions are turning out to be.

Have a nice day.

Seems that some economist are suggesting if Osborne's budget comes a double dip recession is more than likely.

Congratulations.