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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

skinny - 20 Nov 2012 13:18 - 19106 of 81564

Syria conflict: UK recognises opposition, says William Hague

Foreign Secretary William Hague has said the UK has decided to recognise the Syrian opposition coalition.

He told MPs the National Coalition of the Syrian Revolutionary and Opposition Forces was the "sole legitimate representative" of the Syrian people.

He said they were now a "credible" alternative to the Assad government.

TANKER - 21 Nov 2012 09:23 - 19107 of 81564

Anger as sex abuse report 'turns blind eye to Asian gangs' despite admitting that they account for a QUARTER of all cases

Fury at result of Deputy children's commissioner Sue Berelowitz's study
Said figures on Asian gangs weren't enough to conclude particular issue
NSPCC says there is danger of 'turning a blind eye' to abusers' ethnicity

another COVER UP the uk voters need to look at the people in power

TANKER - 21 Nov 2012 09:31 - 19108 of 81564

Two Labour MPs who kept details of their taxpayer-funded homes secret for ‘security reasons’ are renting them from ex-politicians, it can be revealed today.

Debbie Abrahams and Julie Elliott claim thousands of pounds in expenses to rent London flats which were bought by former Labour MPs with the help of the taxpayer.

They are among 51 MPs who, backed by Commons Speaker John Bercow, argued for their landlords’ names to be censored.


you can not believe these MPs still stealing tax payers money
parliament is a cesspit of thieves .

sir paul stephenson accepted thousands of pounds of gifts
so why as he not been charged .
the police have charged coulson and brooks are the police allowed to take gifts

skinny - 21 Nov 2012 15:04 - 19109 of 81564

Killed for not learning the Koran quickly enough.

Yaseen Ali Ege death: Father 'beat son', mother claims

A mother accused of beating her son to death and setting fire to his body has told her trial at Cardiff Crown Court it was her husband who beat their son.

greekman - 21 Nov 2012 15:24 - 19110 of 81564

No wonder we have so much trouble in this country.
We have always had enough of our own criminal element without importing more.
What with so called honour killings, murders because so poor little lad would not learn his bible (Korann) quick enough, group grooming of children for sex and gun crime, the levels of these crimes especially the first two, that were virtually unknown among the indigenous population have increased ten fold.
No wonder the prison population is far higher by percentage for none indigenous than indigenous.
On course we must continue the open borders mentality which allows people with many different cultures and beliefs, no matter how much they go against our own, to keep pouring in.
And before the liberal do gooding lot get started, remember that many that commit crimes such as honour killings, feel that they are doing nothing wrong.
And no the prison population is not skewed against none whites, it's because they are more likely to commit crime.

This_is_me - 21 Nov 2012 18:45 - 19111 of 81564

It all makes sense now. Gay marriage & marijuana being legalized on the same day.



Leviticus 20:13- "If a man lays with another man he should be stoned."



We were evidently just interpreting it wrong.

3 monkies - 21 Nov 2012 22:44 - 19112 of 81564

I like your post Greekman, try watching the leather jacket again and calm down. We cannot alter things and by all accounts you are retired so enjoy what you have now but I do understand it does not help whenst dealing with shrit for years. We will not alter it only put ourselves in early graves.

greekman - 22 Nov 2012 07:10 - 19113 of 81564

This is me,

I like your bible interpretation.

3 Monkies,
The problem I have is that, the more times I watch 'Black leather jacket' the more it winds me up.

What many people do not realise, is that if the present rate of child birth in the UK continues, by 2050 or earlier, there will be more muslims in this country than none muslims, and that forecast was not from a BNP type, but from a high ranking muslim.
I do not agree that we can not alter things and I am doing my bit by pushing the powers that be to do something, before is too late.

doodlebug - 22 Nov 2012 10:55 - 19114 of 81564

Not just this country greekman, there will eventually be more muslims than none muslims in every country in the world - total world domination.

greekman - 22 Nov 2012 11:10 - 19115 of 81564

You said it!
Most of them will probably be livng here on benifits!

2517GEORGE - 22 Nov 2012 12:02 - 19116 of 81564

Has anyone here used IWEB for sharedealing, if so would you recommend them.
2517

Stan - 22 Nov 2012 12:17 - 19117 of 81564

I used it when it was originally Imi web before it was taken over by the Halifax, but then withdrew all my money as I didn't trust Halifax's share-dealing competence from what I had heard of it. Still got the A/C as a sleeper and have considered reactivating it as they are offering a very low dealing charge right now, but not done anything about that so far. Sorry it doesn't exactly answer your Q. George but I'm more interested in the all round service which a Broker offers now rather then just the price aspect.

TANKER - 22 Nov 2012 13:07 - 19118 of 81564

George Osborne made a huge profit of £450,000 by selling his second home which was part paid for by the taxpayer, it was claimed today.

The Chancellor used Commons expenses to pay interest on the mortgage for the farmhouse in his Cheshire constituency.

He sold the property in January this year amid claims he was preparing for the Tatton seat to be abolished under plans to cut the number of MPs.

Mr Osborne bought the house at Harrop Fold Farm near Macclesfield for £445,000 in 2000.

Neighbours say that he sold the house for up to £900,000, the Daily Mirror reported.

Average house prices have more than doubled since 2000.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2236790/Osborne-400-000-profit-second-home-claimed-expenses-say-neighbours.html#ixzz2CxMXcwy2
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Haystack - 22 Nov 2012 13:17 - 19119 of 81564

Would the taxpayer have made up any loss he made due to needing a second hone? If not then it all sounds reasonable.

mnamreh - 22 Nov 2012 13:27 - 19120 of 81564

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greekman - 22 Nov 2012 14:07 - 19121 of 81564

The problem is this.

New rules bought in after the expenses scandal no longer allow MPs to claim mortgage interest.
They have got round this by use of a legal (or at least a Government, looking after it's own rule) loop hole.

Quick example.

MP Smith owns a property in London which is next to an identical property owned by MP Brown.
Under current rules if both own the proerties, they can not cliam mortgage interest on expenses, if they live in their own property, they can not claim rent, as it is not allowed to pay yourself rent.
To get round this, both sell their properties to each other for the same price, so they make no gain or loss.
They can then rent from each other at the same price, claiming up to £1,400 pcm or £20,000 per year.
Of course these rents should be at the market price, but who is going to query a few thousand quid, and at London prices, its probably about right.
So if they rent to each other, they can both make £20,000 more than if they both live in their own owned property.
These are the same people that call companies 'morally currupt' when they use company tax loop holes.
And yes, if they need a second home and already own such, they would not get any expenses, apart from the usual household costs of energy bills and the like.
If they did not own such a property, they could then still rent, but there would be tighter control on this rent being treated as an expence if their landlords were not MP's .
It's the renting from each other, or the renting of a property that was originally owned, then sold to a company and rented back and the secracy of amount of rent paid that stinks.
And as Mnamreh states, any gain on a sale should be paid back, but without transparency, this is often not done, as several have admitted to not doing untill they are caught out.
As to any gain via the loop hole renting scheme, as its not elegal or against the rules, they do not have to pay it back, thats why they do it.
Anyone who can't see morally currupt similarities between these MP's and some companies, should look again!

2517GEORGE - 22 Nov 2012 15:40 - 19122 of 81564

Stan, thanks very much for your reply.
2517

TANKER - 22 Nov 2012 17:19 - 19123 of 81564

The Football Association clears Mark Clattenburg of using "inappropriate language" towards John Mikel Obi but charges the Chelsea player.

now lets see if the black football lawyers call for a 8 match ban .
or are they racist .or does it only work one way
and make the chelsea player pay him damages .

TANKER - 22 Nov 2012 17:35 - 19124 of 81564

if this had been a weaker person he could of taken is own life that is how bad this was .all players must think before they act.
so a ban and fine must be the call.

doodlebug - 22 Nov 2012 20:50 - 19125 of 81564

It only works one way Tanker, to answer your question. It's utterly appalling what Clattenburg has gone through in the last few weeks. A decent guy subjected to racist allegations, completely ill-founded. The black football lawyer involved in this case appeared on Sky news and was completely unapologetic.
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